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Mitch Wagner
Mitch Wagner
12/30/2015 2:00:32 PM
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Future: Tense
Being a futurist is yesterday's news, eh?

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DHagar
DHagar
1/6/2016 5:55:05 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
MitchWagner,  apparently Now is being virtually connected!  Interesting slides - I like the Industry Insights (which will/can drive value) and the Making It Simple with convergence.  Great show!

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batye
batye
1/14/2016 3:52:50 AM
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Re: Future: Tense
@DHagar  could not agree more, but I think everything moving towards virtual presence...

 

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DHagar
DHagar
1/14/2016 12:36:24 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
@bayte, thanks.  The point you make about everything being virtual, I would agree IF it is connected to a network or platform.  That is where the added value comes in and is truly transformative.  I believe the connectedness has the biggest impact; just as the internet's prime value is the connected networks.  This extends the linkages, resources, etc., and provides "virtual" networks, where the new value is created.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 4:09:45 AM
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Re: Future: Tense
There is no question we are already here.    I would also humbly suggest that somehow we have to make sure the human touch is maintained in order to create further value.   Sitting in front a computer is not necessarily conducive to progress.    

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DHagar
DHagar
1/27/2016 2:24:36 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
mouraryan, indeed we have not kept pace with technology!  The human intelligence applied to the technology capabilities can offer us so many new opportunities.  We haven't begun to scratch the surface!

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 2:41:44 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
The key is to remember not to lose the human touch as we strive for more "value add" services and engagement which includes trends like Cognitive learning/etc. that we've had a chance to deliberate on here. 

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DHagar
DHagar
1/27/2016 4:17:46 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
mpouraryan, agreed - we still need people to rule the world!

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/27/2016 7:21:03 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
> we still need people to rule the world!

Heh. Maybe we don't, though.. Plenty of sci-fi stories of "caretaker artificial intelligence" that regulates the economy and applies law and justice in an unbiased way... Okay, we're REALLY far from that future.. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/WritingPrompts/comments/34mumw/wp_an_ai_caretaker_is_tasked_with_watching_over/

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 8:48:05 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
The problem is the so-called 4th Industrial Revolution that was the topic of discussion and this notion called The "Post Work Economy" I am trying to get my arms around.   We seem to truly be discounting humans--to our detriment.

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/27/2016 9:34:04 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
Clearly, we can't and shouldn't let robots take over complete control. But it's also clear that things are getting complex enough that we can't make good informed decisions without some forms of artificial intelligence. IF we didn't have supercomputers to simulate global climate change, we probably wouldn't even care about carbon dioxide or renewable energy sources.... 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 11:46:11 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
With you there--no question as my own experience with what IBM did with the World Community Grid is ever so evident.    But, the primacy of humans has to be factored in.   There should be no compromise on it.

 

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DHagar
DHagar
1/28/2016 12:32:16 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
mpouraryan, agreed.  The human intelligence (see my other post) definitely needs to take into account the artificial intelligence but needs to have the ultimate authority to direct, change, etc.  I don't know that computers can always configure the moral/human impact, which is the reality of transactions and decisions.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/28/2016 12:54:18 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
As "Deep Learning" gathers steam at Alphabet, things are bound to even get more interesting--and fascinating to be witness to.

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DHagar
DHagar
1/28/2016 1:08:16 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
mpouraryan, indeed!  Take good notes - these are truly fundamental changes coming at us from multiple directions.  That's why I believe we need human intelligence to ensure we put them in the right order and fully take advantage of the new opportunities being created daily.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/28/2016 1:10:43 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
It is dizzying ever more.   I don't mind noting frankly scary.  I am hoping (if I can figure out how to make it work) to sign up for the Deep Learning Course Google has on Udacity. 

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DHagar
DHagar
1/28/2016 1:25:31 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
mpouraryan, I'm with you!  I highly recommend Udacity.  I took two courses when they started (including one with Sebastian Thun) and they are excellent!  Keep us informed and share your intelligence.

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batye
batye
2/3/2016 6:24:10 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
@DHagar  this day the way technology grows and develops - education and training is never ending process... just to be, you must keep reading/learning :)

 

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DHagar
DHagar
2/4/2016 2:19:56 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
bayte, good insights.  Yes, it is almost a continual state of discovery.  You only know what you know now and based on yesterday, but tomorrow things can and will change and you have to learn more or totally rethink what you thought you knew!

It is an exciting time and you are either "in the game" or becoming obsolete - as you state.  That will keep us learning!

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batye
batye
2/4/2016 2:32:47 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
@DHagar  Thank you, but this day we must take everything with grain of salt as education on line could be a good one... or just time spend/lost... sad reality of internet...

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DHagar
DHagar
2/4/2016 3:29:48 PM
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bayte, I think that's the good news of today.  We can access education and information in many forms, from MOOC's, to classroom, to corporate training, to information sites like Telco Transformation.  We now have the ability to choose what is good for us.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
2/10/2016 3:59:19 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
It is an exciting time and you are either "in the game" or becoming obsolete - as you state.  That will keep us learning!

@DHagar:


Such a true statement.

'Becoming Obsolete' is not very cheerful moment for human beings. It is just the human nature as we strive to know more and more. And it is difficult to admit the fact that often times it is a constant struggle to catch up and be there in the race.

I tend to think often times on a regular basis "Man, I don't know this and I am so much behind.." But that surely serves as motivation to discover and learn more and more.

 

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DHagar
DHagar
2/10/2016 4:16:36 PM
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ms.akkineni, excellent reflection.  To me that is knowledge - it is not as much anymore a state of knowing as much as it is a start of staying connected and continuing to learn what there is to know - like technology.

That will keep us all young!

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DHagar
DHagar
1/28/2016 5:51:19 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
mpouraryan, you are right it is all discovery.  But if anyone can figure it out and make it work, I am betting you can!

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/29/2016 7:04:28 AM
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Re: Future: Tense
Very Very Gracious of you--let's hope that at least I can meet expectations.

:))

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/28/2016 2:55:05 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
We are witnessing another AI milestone as an algorithm that can beat an expert Go player now exists:

https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2016/01/alphago-machine-learning-game-go.html

Go has been the game to beat for many decades now... and it's just about to be at the level where it will reliably beat over 99% of humans.

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batye
batye
2/3/2016 6:22:23 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
@mhhf1ve thanks for the link, interesting reading...

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/28/2016 3:02:58 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
I think everyone (all humans!) can agree that living people should have a say in how our society functions -- even if we accept some advice/help from artificial intelligence...

 

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DHagar
DHagar
1/28/2016 3:35:33 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
mhhf1ve, well stated!  Fully agree!

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batye
batye
2/3/2016 6:21:40 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
@mhhf1ve it like we must step out of our old pattern of thinking...

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DHagar
DHagar
1/28/2016 12:28:13 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
mhhf1ve, excellent arguing points - your statements are convincing. 

Maybe I should state it this way.  I believe that computers "can" do all these things and make logical decisions (sometimes the best decisions), but we may not "want" them to make every decision in that the ethical, moral, and human factors may be minimized.  So I believe we still want the "ultimate" algorithms, decisions, etc., made by humans to retain balance and have the final controls.  Then computers following/affirming those decisions will provide the best results.

I'm an optimist - so I believe our goal is the best human/artificial intelligence combination will provide the best results.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
2/10/2016 3:42:58 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
@mpouraryan:

I recall my school days when we were introduced to computers. Often time we use to hear that computers are dumb by themselves. They will become smart only with human instructions. Till date that has been the case and it will be so....It's the human brain and intelligence that bring real value add. Ofcourse technology plays a key role to translate those qualities appropriately to make sure we have maximum yield.

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batye
batye
1/14/2016 3:51:21 AM
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Re: Future: Tense
@Mitch Wagner  yes and now... as it does depends on the point of view...

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 4:08:23 AM
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Re: Future: Tense
I found this discourse to be especially poignant--we are all futurists because today is the future that we live through.   The question is whether we have to be overwhelmed by it--or excited by it.    With the open source revolution, the commoditization of hardware, service and the advent of technologies scratching the surface, why can't we embrace the future?  Isn't that the bottom line message as we're winding down the first month of 2016? 

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
2/10/2016 3:49:27 PM
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I like the caption 'Do not be a Futurist, be a "Now-ist" '

I don't disagree with being a 'Now-ist'. But isn't also required to have an ongoing vision for future. In my opinion that is the way to keep thinking ahead and move forward to translate that vision into practice.

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