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LightRay
1/4/2016 1:03:49 PM
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All about resources and mentoring
in my view, the telcos that will be successful at this are the ones that offer resources and mentoring, while not trying to impose conditions and culture on developers and innovators.
The smart ones will hire a developer as a consultant....
batye
1/14/2016 3:17:30 AM
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Re: All about resources and mentoring
@LightRay I could not agree and I trust you are right... In my opinon it right way... positive change :)
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 2:48:58 AM
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Re: All about resources and mentoring
It is another interesting discourse to join--I am glad to see you agreeing @Batye. Change is always positive--no question. However, iOT in and of itself is challenging due to a multitude of challenges that has to be overcome including platforms, systems and the frankly the "Chasm" that still has to be crossed. It is bound in the eyes of some not to be as "positive" as one would like and hope.
DHagar
1/4/2016 5:44:18 PM
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Re: All about resources and mentoring
Lightray, I would agree and further add that the "system" that makes it work is what DT is setting up with Cisco and Intel in the Intelligent System. Increasingly, these platforms that feed and support the complete value chain provide added opportunity.
I would further add that the "culture" provided by Cisco and Intel will go a long way to developing the markets for the IoT startups.
batye
1/14/2016 3:19:01 AM
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Re: All about resources and mentoring
@DHagar I think it more like paradigm shift, where value added
DHagar
1/14/2016 12:31:16 PM
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Re: All about resources and mentoring
@bayte, good clarification. This is a new paradigm and totally different context.
batye
1/14/2016 12:41:10 PM
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Re: All about resources and mentoring
@DHagar Thanks, for me it seems like rapid change... almost over night... but I'm old school :)
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 2:53:15 AM
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Re: All about resources and mentoring
I add my voice in the clarifications--but I could not help but ask, in what way the positive paradigm shift? What specific advantages are you seeing? Hope to see this clarification.
DHagar
1/14/2016 1:22:35 PM
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Re: All About Resources
@bayte, no, you are just putting things in context. The pace of change is definitely speeding up and the compounding of technologies (i.e., IoT), only makes these changes appear to be coming faster and faster.
It is true, change now is less an "event" as much as an ongoing presence. So I think we will begin to expect it as a constant. Fasten your seatbelts!
batye
1/22/2016 12:52:36 PM
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Re: All About Resources
@DHagar I'm gonna see we gonna have interesting ride... but it will not be a smoth ride....
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 2:52:06 AM
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Re: All About Resources
Why won't you believe it to be a "smooth ride"? It is true that change is never easy--but the opportunity to grow is something that all must be amenable. Right?
imorris
1/21/2016 3:31:18 AM
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Fits with Industrie 4.0 approach
I've been speaking with Deutsche Telekom about Industrie 4.0 and they clearly see a critical role for themselves as the entity that can bring companies from different parts of the value chain together to work on IoT services. The outreach to startups obviously fits well with this approach. When might we see some of these technologies being supported in Deutsche Telekom's enterprise offerings, I wonder?
DHagar
1/22/2016 2:14:44 PM
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Re: Fits with Industrie 4.0 approach
@Iain, that's a great vision! I believe if they provide that platform for DevOps and innovations in IoT they will build an excellent sustainable capability to provide the service, connections, and a link to ongoing development. This foundation, along with driving partnerships in the value chain, gives them a strong market position.
As you say, when/where will the first innovations take place and the results of their Value Chain; I believe that will demonstrate the real ROI.
mhhf1ve
1/26/2016 3:25:19 PM
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Interesting IP policy
> "the operator makes no demands on the intellectual property of the companies it is helping.."
That's an interesting policy, and it probably helps ease some concerns that startups might have with taking money from an investor that might be potential competition down the line. But I wonder how an incubator like this attracts entrepreneurs in the first place? Usually, it's not just the money for investment rounds, but also connections to help these businesses grow. So.. will these startups get some preferential treatment on the network side?
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 2:51:02 AM
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Re: Interesting IP policy
The simple solution to that is this: Lawyers who are smart enough to figure out how to "balance it all out". Not everyone will win--that's for sure. The incubator has to make sure it is amenable--I know if I ever decided to move and take advantage of an incubator I want it to allow me to be free without interference.
mhhf1ve
1/26/2016 3:31:58 PM
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ProGlove - another wearable category?
Watches and VR/AR goggles seem to have peaked a bit.. so maybe gloves, earbuds and other wearables are going to catch on? I haven't seen too many smart gloves in action, but it sounds like a potentially useful gadget. Getting used to charging gloves, tho....
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 2:55:47 AM
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Re: ProGlove - another wearable category?
It is interesting that you note that they've "Peaked"--I would argue they are yet to actually gain traction on a broad basis--part of the broad challenge of the so-called "Chasm" that is yet to be crossed. Apple says its' sales of "Other devices" (which includes the Watch) has had a record sales quarter--but the watch is yet to gain traction....as well as other so-called wearables. I do note that the move by DT (and I am sure T-Mobile is jumping at the bits) to proceed in a concerted way.
It is a developing story, no question.....
mhhf1ve
1/27/2016 2:04:38 PM
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Re: ProGlove - another wearable category?
> -"I would argue they are yet to actually gain traction on a broad basis"
Sure. I meant that they've "peaked" with hype, not adoption. Surely, smartwatches have a lot more adoption ahead as they get better battery life and actually become useful. (I'm not too keen on needing to re-charge a watch everyday.)
If Siri or other voice-activated services were better, that might also boost the smartwatch usefulness factor, but so far I haven't seen a great reason to start wearing a watch again.
I don't think smart gloves are particularly the next big thing, but maybe headphones? Or a better version of AR glasses that don't look dorky.
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 2:10:50 PM
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Re: ProGlove - another wearable category?
I am having reasonable luck w/my Pebble (and it is a first generation). We have some room to grow with it--no question. But fun to be witness to..isn't it?
mhhf1ve
1/27/2016 4:04:01 PM
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Re: ProGlove - another wearable category?
Wearables have a long way to go for sure. I think Apple has jumped the gun a bit with its watch. I think it's like the Newton. There just isn't enough supporting tech to really make the Apple Watch compelling. Just as the Newton wasn't complete until touchscreens and UI combined into an iPad.
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 8:33:45 PM
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Re: ProGlove - another wearable category?
I would humbly suggest that they were late into the game as the rise of Pebble clearly shows. Anything The Watch can do, the Pebble can do--and you may recall Apple wa snot approving Pebble's App for a little while. I think the NFC Ring (another wearable I am evaluating) will also suffer the same faith.
mhhf1ve
1/27/2016 9:37:54 PM
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Re: ProGlove - another wearable category?
Not so sure that the Pebble can do everything the Apple Watch can... but the things the Pebble can't do that the Apple Watch can are probably not really worth doing right now. You can't send haptic messages to other people wearing a Pebble -- but who does that anyway?
Pebble and Apple Watch are still like Newtons and Handspring and Palm Pilots.. not quite ready for mainstream adoption. Sure, there are some tech early adopters who think these are great gadgets, but these things aren't like iPods or iPads. Toddlers and grandparents aren't going to really see the point in wearing a smartwatch right now. Maybe in a few years when the smartwatches have better wireless services and don't need to connect to phones?
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 11:49:02 PM
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Re: ProGlove - another wearable category?
The newer Pebbles come pretty darn close. Palm did hold its' own for quite some time until Compaq Figured out a way to transform it with the iPAQ..right? The older ones are an "extension" of the Phone--it is when the wearable becomes standalone then we have an opportunity to truly live up to what was envisioned in Star Trek.
Let's stay hopeful.
Re: ProGlove - another wearable category?
mhhf1ve, I agree--so far these watches aren't piquing customers' interests...they seem to be dying on the vine so to speak...no one wants to pick them. They just aren't capturing users' attention...but if the advances that you mention were to come to pass, maybe more people would be keen to buy and wear a watch again. I can definitely say that I'm not ready yet...
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