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DHagar
DHagar
1/7/2016 11:00:39 PM
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Re: IoT Gears Up
Mike, as you say, there is a lot involved in IoT and the success I believe will be the result of a simple elegance (ala Apple, etc.).  Customers will value the simple solutions that improve their lives and/or "connect" them to something of value - as AT&T is doing with Smart Cities in providing simple solutions for their customers.  The companies that can do that will drive the market for IoT and the value of "connected" devices that make the physical item Smart through the digital connections.

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Mike Robuck
Mike Robuck
1/8/2016 10:57:21 AM
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Re: IoT Gears Up
I agree Deborah. I think when IoT was first discussed several years ago the common response was "I don't need my toaster to talk to my refrigerator" (maybe that was just my brother that said that) but we've all learned that it's much more than that. Now that we moved into IPv6, I'll be interested to see what else needs to be done on networks to handle all of these different devices, especially if billiing is part of the process for IoT services. 

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Ariella
Ariella
1/11/2016 10:29:35 AM
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Re: IoT Gears Up
I don't recommend a discussion of IoT with the MIL. Mine won't even pay her bills online because she feel the internet is not secure. Of course what people fail to realize is that your informtion is kept in clouds -- even if you don't actively put it there -- by the companies you do business with. And that goes for your everyday consumers in small towns, as well as for businesses. 

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vnewman
vnewman
1/12/2016 3:11:59 PM
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Re: IoT Gears Up
@Ariella. I would tend to agree with you there.  People fear what they don't understand and my MIL/parents act on fear instead of empowering themselves with knowledge.  I suppose it is merely a generational thing.  But I digress...where I live and work, IOT is hindered by two things: lack of a proper infrastructure and automation.  Without those two things, you're bascially dead in the water.

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Ariella
Ariella
1/12/2016 3:18:05 PM
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Re: IoT Gears Up
@vnewman Definitely there is that. I just find it confusing sometimes how even a technology that is adopted is not really utilized correctly.  One thing that really gets me every time is that when she forwards an email, she also prints it out and mails it via snail mail.  It would be one thing if she didn't trust the email at all, but she seems to think that it needs that hard copy backup even though the hard copy arrives days later.

Certainly, you need the setup that allows for the connections. Otherwise you'll just have things without the intenert component. Do you also find literal concrete barriers. At my husband's workplace, he says he always gets complaints about the WiFi. The building itself blocks it through some walls.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 4:12:32 AM
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Re: IoT Gears Up
What I have seen here in this discourse leads to an old admonition:  Caveat Emptor (buyer be aware...I had to look it up at one time!!).  But on a more serious note, it is like avoidin the first edition of a software or a hardware (remember how the previous editions of Windows for instance had to go thru at least 3 "point" releases before things settled down).   Let the technology settle down.    We should not get excited just yet.     

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
1/27/2016 7:34:05 AM
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Re: IoT Gears Up
@mpouraryan:

I wouldn't deny your mention about being watchful about premature nature when something new is out into market. But to get excited about any new era of invention is pretty obvious. Nothing stops that and i don't see a reason to be not. When it comes to experiment that, it's all up to one's own judgement. I believe it's pretty much personal choice - some would like to try the very first product that gets out while others can wait to see a bit matured version prior to getting their hands wet.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 11:14:01 AM
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Re: IoT Gears Up
It was in this very spirit that through my company, the Daily Outsider, we backed a number of kickstarter based projects--one of them being a $ 9 Computer that I can't wait to get my hands on--and also trying to test out and assess a Keepod Device (that I have not been able to get to work yet on an Old IBM ThinkPad I have secured).   However, the majority of our fellow brothers and sisters in the World are not as "geek-centric" as we are...are they? 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 4:14:27 AM
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Re: IoT Gears Up
We can't forestall progress--we have to patient.  That's what I see as the implicit message here as you and the rest of the team have outlined.   I also underscored it implicitly by not getting excited about the evolution.    

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
1/11/2016 1:56:50 PM
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Re: IoT Gears Up
@DHagar - Completely agree with you about simplicity in solution. Smart solution options would be considered value add when it is really simple to explore and implement.

The other day I was in AT & T store and overheard a conversation about how your smart phone can be used to unlock your house with out searching for key. That sounds like an imressive option but at the same time brings many thoughts in. How confident one can feel to use this? Security is the biggest concern for such things. We are undoubtedly on right track. But it will take more time to see increased trend in using such solutions.

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DHagar
DHagar
1/11/2016 2:04:07 PM
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Re: IoT Gears Up
@ms.akkineni,good examples.  Agreed, the conveniences will attract people, especially if the security is there.  The security for IoT is going to be a bigger issue because of the multiple devices and the wider distribution.  I believe that is why consumers will turn to reliable companies they believe they can trust, who are setting up cloud security that is more reliable than the internet.  Examples are the partnerships AT&T is putting together with IBM and others to align the technologies on a platform that can secure the data/connectivity and earn the public's trust.

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inkstainedwretch
inkstainedwretch
1/21/2016 12:15:10 PM
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Security
Security is a substantial issue. The notion that IoT success will accrue to a trusted partner seems to me intuitively correct, but even the likeliest candidates have to be worried about a disaster. Should someone figure out a way to hack IoT front door locks? I wouldn't want to be on the team that has to explain how some hackers opened the front doors of every home in a neighborhood and leisurely looted all of them (or worse). "Oh, those were just first-generation locks." "But we told those customers to update their software / change their passwords." "The breach was with a third-party partner who stores..." None of that is going to fly. -- Brian Santo

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
1/27/2016 7:42:43 AM
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Re: Security
Very Valid explanation. No matter how much ever security evolves,  an average consumer  would always have that concern at the back of the mind. Just for that reason consumer makes his/her own choices on where to opt that smart options. Obviously to less prone areas of his / her life. Being a technology person I would have some level of trust but I am no exception to narrowing down when it comes to that point.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 11:25:21 AM
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Re: Security
One of the other projects we backed was this--I had hoped to do the acxtual Kickstarter update--but it "messed up" the graphics--so I just decided to share this clip hope you all enjoy--it is in the end about the possiblities--isn't it?
KeyDuino on GitHub : https://github.com/CITCEuraRFID/KeyDuino

 

KeyDuino on GitHub : https://github.com/CITCEuraRFID/KeyDuino

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/27/2016 12:58:38 PM
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Re: Security
Security is still a largely unaddressed issue for IoT. One of the big problems is how will these IoT devices get updated software -- if there is no way to upgrade them, then there will be unpatched and insecure devices everywhere, potentially causing all kinds of havoc.

I've heard there might be some kind of P2P or distributed solution, and I think IBM tried working on a blockchain platform to secure software updates for a distributed network, but until these things get figured out... I don't think too many people should want their refrigerators talking to their cars and toasters.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/27/2016 1:03:08 PM
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Nest thermostats..
Even the internet-connected Nest thermostats are giving people some reason to be cautious about adopting IoT devices. Nest devices appear to be divulging location information -- and software bugs have left people with unheated homes during one of the worst blizzards. 

https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/feamster/who-will-secure-the-internet-of-things/

Clearly, the IoT security problem needs to be addressed before it gains more traction.

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clrmoney
clrmoney
2/4/2016 10:49:27 AM
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smart cars in the future
I know there will be increased cars in the future that will be energy effiecient but I'm not sure about the cities maybe it can make some things easier with virtual information technology etc.

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freehe
freehe
2/27/2016 12:39:43 PM
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Re: smart cars in the future
Consumers should be concerned about security and privacy. How will companies that produce technology for smart cities and smart cars ensure customer and business data are protected?  Extensive testing must be performed as well as a customer outreach program to show consumers the benefits of smart cities and smart cars and how both will make their lives better.

An assessment also need to be performed of worst case scenarios and how to handle them. We don't want to see a worst case scenario like the movie, I, Robot. :)

 

 

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Itsmeshawn22
Itsmeshawn22
3/31/2017 10:42:12 PM
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IoT Gears Up for Smart Cities, Cars
This is a very good article but the smart car can be a good thing or a bad thing. yeah its going to be good on gas/ eletric and save alot of money. But the bad parts can be very small, not very good impact protection, the smaller the car the worse thats just my opinon. They can be good for cities as it says in the article but i just think they are not good.

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