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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/2/2016 9:22:42 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
> Does Mayer know what she's doing?  Does she have a plan?  Seems to me like her hire was her being Peter-Principled and then some.

Her performance so far... does seem to indicate that she might've just been "lucky" at Google. Unlike Steve Jobs, who stumbled, but then struck gold again at Apple and Pixar. 

But, on the other hand, Yahoo is a unique and difficult problem to correct. It might not even HAVE a solution, no matter who was put in charge. The clock was ticking as soon as she got the CEO position... and there just wasn't a lot of time to do all that much. Perhaps she should have fired a LOT more people as soon as she got on board? And just focused on a few services that had revenue/profits -- and just poured money into R&D to develop the "next big thing" on an insane timeframe.

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/2/2016 9:16:15 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
> "The 300 Mil+ visitors though should be worth something in terms of leverage."

I'm surprised that Yahoo has held on to its audience for so long. I wonder how many people still use the same old "Homepage" every day? Yahoo instant messenger was so dominant, not that long ago! It really shows how fragile Facebook's position actually is, and why FB keeps buying other social networks to extend its reign. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/2/2016 9:13:56 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
> "Her tenure at Yahoo seems to have been business-as-usual for the company: acqui-hire after acqui-hire."

The acqui-hire trend continues at Yahoo because the really talented engineers wouldn't want to go to Yahoo's sinking ship. With an acqui-hire, Yahoo has a shot at convincing some of them that they could do something useful with Yahoo's resources.

Still, it doesn't look like there's been much long-term value created within Yahoo. Without its fortuitous investment in Alibaba, Yahoo would be really struggling. 

I think it's unfortunate that Yahoo couldn't create a Hulu clone with Yahoo Screen. But it's not easy to build a media empire with content... Yahoo has the eyeballs, tho, still... so it's worth something -- if someone knew what to do with it.

The other problem is that Yahoo has never really had a hardware product to go with its services, so it can't even claim to have much intellectual property in a device. 

I'm really surprised Yahoo was never able to replicate an auction site back in the day when eBay was still young, too. Heck, it might even still be able to try to replicate a Craigslist clone. 

Tumblr, tho.. that seems to be a repeat of a mistake. They already tried Geocities. And Mayer should have known from Blogger that Tumblr wasn't really worth $1B. I suppose she was trying to turn it into the next Snapchat/Twitter/Instagram or social media site, but I don't think it's really caught on the way it could have. And Yahoo doesn't even really do much analytics on Tumblr, if I'm not mistaken... 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
2/2/2016 7:35:57 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
It is tragic--no question.   It is just a matter of time before someone takes them out of their misery.    The 300 Mil+ visitors though should be worth something in terms of leverage.   Anyone in the startup virtual space (which I am working on) would love to have even a fraction of it..but maybe I'm daydreaming.....

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
2/2/2016 7:20:29 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
The most classic one was the 30-million acquisition of what that kid did in the UK......

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/2/2016 7:12:15 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
@mpourayan: Indeed... "stablized" it to 2006-2007 levels, yes?

Except this time (I'd bet) no buyout offer from Microsoft will be forthcoming in the near future.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/2/2016 7:09:34 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
@Mitch:

> Yahoo would be in a lot worse shape without her than it is with her.

With all due respect...

For the past year-plus, we've been seeing a market correction in Yahoo's valuation.  Her tenure at Yahoo seems to have been business-as-usual for the company: acqui-hire after acqui-hire.

Or am I missing something?  I fully allow for the fact that I may lack important information.




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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
2/2/2016 6:57:14 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
Falling out of my chair in laughter @Joe..but on a more serious note, one cannot help but be "semi-shocked" at the tragedy unfolding though.   On a side note, interesting tidbit on how Comcast is about to go toe to toe with Google in the five cities it is targeting....

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
2/2/2016 6:55:41 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
The earnings for Yahoo just came out--and it is not pretty---a 4.4 Billion Write-Down (basically writing down things like Tumblr, for instance)>    Yes although she's "stabilized" the ship, the core business appears not to be worth anything as the aftermarket pricing I was seeing reflects.  Let's see what tomorrow brings.     

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/2/2016 6:48:40 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
@mpourayan: Core competency assumes they have any competency.

(I KID!  I KID!)

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