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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
2/21/2016 12:24:26 AM
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Re: Telco and Yahoo are in similar boats.
@mhhf1ve & @Joe: The "convergence" is there--anyone who doubts it is doing so at their peril.  Yes Yahoo does have some major traffic that goes to it that could make it attractive for anyone that's thinking more broadly.    It will be interesting to see which of the Telcos' will in fact pick it up.    

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/20/2016 10:08:32 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
People were long predicting Tumblr would be a write-off.  I suppose the only surprise is that it took Yahoo this long to do so.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/9/2016 2:14:08 PM
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Telco and Yahoo are in similar boats.
And just so no one thinks Yahoo discussions are completely off topic here -- telcos are facing similar problems of finding new services to launch without cannibalizing existing businesses. Telcos and MSOs are going to need to "transform" just like Yahoo needed to... And hopefully, they'll do a better job of it.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/9/2016 2:10:31 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
Is Yahoo Answers still that popular? I thought the stackexchange network and certain Reddit forums and maybe even Quora replaced Yahoo Answers as the place to go for online Q&A.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/9/2016 2:08:32 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
Another huge problem with yahoo's portfolio of services is that they've effectively created a huge barrier for partnering with any other company. They can't partner with Amazon bc Amazon is competitive with Alibaba. They cant partner with Apple bc that would jeopardize Yahoo's existing search business. And Yahoo has to walk a fine line between Microsoft and Google for search tech.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/9/2016 2:02:32 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
With the benefit of hindsight, I'd say that Yahoo probably should have focused on building and developing its scalable datacenters to create an another AWS competitor. Then they'd at least have something of long-term value rather than social media eyeballs which could wander away at almost any time. Tumblr to my knowledge could have been just the start of creating a series of scalable cloud services, but I'm not sure if the datacenters Yahoo uses for Tumblr or Flickr/etc could be re-sold like AWS for developers to build new services on top. Mayer focused on mobile but she may have missed the boat on cloud datacenters that support mobile app development.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/9/2016 1:15:42 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
@mhh: Yup.  Google got really mega-good at one thing before it started doing a zillion things.  Yahoo lost its core competency when Google came on the scene, so how do you fix that?  Find something else to be super good at (or try to reclaim the search throne)?  Because trying to be the tech jack-of-all-trades when you don't have that singular thing that defines you to begin with is problematic.

A few years ago, Yahoo was going to be all about mobile.  Remember that?  But what have they done other than acquihires?  Nothing.  The company exists to sell ad revenue and spend money.

Maybe we're all looking at this all wrong.  Maybe Yahoo needs to simply embrace being the also-ran -- and strive to be the third-party leader in "economy" solutions.  (After all, people still drink RC Cola.)

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/9/2016 1:11:51 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
@mhh: Well, their content does have VERY good SEO (on, heh heh, Google).  Yahoo Answers  comes to mind.

Plus, the company once did such a good job of building community that many users have stayed with it -- despite its more recent lackluster-ness.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/9/2016 1:09:24 PM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
@mhh: To be fair, I really believe that Tumblr could have "made it" with a complete overhaul of the business model (which has always been a laughable one).  It's a very clever and very flexible product/service, but you can't build a Silicon-Valley empire on a B2C model relying mostly on selling t-shirts and template designs.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
2/3/2016 1:37:47 AM
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Re: Contrasting experiences in US and Europe
There is indeed a realization to that effect.

This underscores it @mhhhf1ve:

https://econsultancy.com/blog/67470-facebook-twitter-make-ux-changes-in-fight-to-stay-social/?utm_source=currently&utm_medium=browser-extension&utm_campaign=chrome

 

https://econsultancy.com/blog/67470-facebook-twitter-make-ux-changes-in-fight-to-stay-social/?utm_source=currently&utm_medium=browser-extension&utm_campaign=chrome

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