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jbtombes
2/22/2016 12:38:37 PM
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ahead of curve?
Is this a case of a prescient service provider showing customers what they want before they realize they want it? Or more of just laying out a roadmap - cloud, virtualization, white label.
dlr5288
2/22/2016 1:47:45 PM
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White Box
I understand that the white box method is cheaper and believed that it could be tweeked to be better than before, but how long could that take?
It's amusing to me that in the poll there were no votes for the white box networking, yet that's what they're trying to bring back. I don't know if this is just another way for AT&T to save money or if they truly believe that this is what's best for them and their customers.
Re: White Box
It was somewhat amusing when white box came up with 0 votes. Steve Saunders was surprised but Donovan bailed him out by picking it first.
Re: White Box
It was really interesting to see absolutely no votes for white box concept.
However I am not surprised to see 44% for Cloud. That is yet another positive sign and reaffirmation to one and all about Cloud's role going forward. It made sense when Mr. Donovan also indicated 'cloud' as one of the pre-requisites for white box networking. I thought that is completely in line.
Re: White Box
I think it's becasue the cloud has become so fundamental -- so basic.
At this point, it would almost be like asking: "What will be most important for mankind's continuing to thrive over the next decade?" with "Food" presented as an option among various scientific advances.
Re: White Box
To be fair, can "white box networking" really be touted as a "new technology"? Is it not, more properly speaking, a new term for what was once little more than "being cheap" except now it actually has a strategic purpose in the age of virtualization?
Re: White Box
Can not agree more, that was my exact thought while reading the post.
It's amazing to see absolutely no votes in the poll and yet a strong push for the same. At the same time I don't see any winning theory behind that I could be convinced as a customer myself.
Is it really the Big Prize?
I do personally undertand that it is cheaper and suppose to be the same speed. This will cause hundreds of people to jut ee that a a good point. The white box will come with minimal software or it may be sold as a bare metal device. The advantage of this approach is that switches can be customized to meet an organization's specific business and networking needs.
Whitebox switching is the idea that a networking consumer can purchase a generic Ethernet switch without a network operating system, and install an operating system of their choice. If we all break it down you will find that there is only four main parts:
1. Silicon
2. Box
3. Network OS and drivers
4. Applications
I am just still not really sure if this will be the greatest or just ends up like being like the rest.
Re: Is it really the Big Prize?
Thanks for providing an overview. Gained more insight of the concept as a person with not commanding network background.
The advantage of this approach is that switches can be customized to meet an organization's specific business and networking needs.
This could be the winning secret behind this whole thing if this becomes a big hit.
Re: Is it really the Big Prize?
The tech world has been trying to do away with the OS (or, at least, minimize it) for years. (Remember NCs in the '90s? No? Nobody else does either.)
afwriter
2/25/2016 12:17:35 AM
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Re: Is it really the Big Prize?
@dchampagne70
Perhaps AT&T is simply assuming that consumers want something straight out of the box and not understanding that this is a new generatition understands more and would rather have something that works better than is easier.
Re: Is it really the Big Prize?
I think you have more faith in Millennials than AT&T and I do. ;)
batye
3/1/2016 3:17:47 AM
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Re: Is it really the Big Prize?
@Joe Stanganelli I could not agree more but also in my mind AT&T does still have few good cards left...
mhhf1ve
2/23/2016 3:15:23 PM
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cheaper hardware...
Open Compute and other open source hardware projects are really going to make the "white box" trend a more compelling choice as these boxes become more advanced and get cheaper with scale.
It'll be interesting to see how non-proprietary hardware holds up against the traditional networking equipment....
5G?
I feel like it was rather silly to include 5G on the survey at all given the question. The next decade? In 2026 we'll be talking about 7, 7.5, ot 8G at least, no?
(I'm also curious about the 6% who voted for 5G.)
elizabethv
2/28/2016 8:20:25 AM
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Re: 5G?
I'm not sure if we'll be wanting 8G by 2026.... Look at how long it has taken us to get from 4 to 5G. Maybe looking ahead to it, but I doubt it will actually be a thing by 2026. For some people, the concept of 5G still seems pretty mesmorizing. (And technically, since it isn't even really available, that's understandable.) From the point of view of a typical consumer, not a techy, the possibilities of 5G might seem pretty unreal. A think most people just use their phones to enjoy them, and the latest advances don't really catch on until more knowledgeable people have paved the way for the advancements.
Do you have any thoughts about what even 6G might look like, for the typical consumer? Just curious.
Re: 5G?
That's a good point, Elizabeth. I suspect that by that point, we might be looking at entirely new technology.
On the other hand, ten years isn't really that far away.
dlr5288
2/29/2016 10:18:35 PM
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Re: 5G?
Good points.
Yes, it seems very unlikely that we'll be able to move that fast in 2026, but you never know. I agree, however that 5G is something that many people, including myself, is enchanted by. It seems so much more powerful and advanced than 4G.
I'm excited to see where 5G goes and how much longer it will take to even move past 5G. Right now though 5G seems like an incredible feat.
batye
3/1/2016 3:19:15 AM
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Re: 5G?
@dlr5288 I would say 5G is the new future - here to stay... it only need time :)
dlr5288
3/21/2016 6:38:13 PM
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Re: 5G?
Yes, I hope so!
I can't wait to see what new advances come along with 5G. I think it's going to be a huge progress in technology and I just hope it upholds to all the expectations.
Re: 5G?
Actually, I suspect that by the time we get to what we might call "7G" or "8G," we'll probably be calling it something else altogether -- and the technology will be worlds different.
dlr5288
3/21/2016 8:26:39 PM
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Re: 5G?
Yes I agree!
I think by the time "7G" or "8G" are an actual thing it's going to have a different name or go by something else. It's exciting to see where it will go though. People always want things faster and quicker than before so I know speed will be a big difference.
batye
3/1/2016 3:20:36 AM
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Re: 5G?
@elizabethv Good solid point, I could not agree more... but how I see it this is the way of technology race we are in :).... what ever we wants it or not...
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