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Ariella
Ariella
3/8/2016 7:41:32 PM
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Skype
<To which I say, "Skype had a smart TV app?"> @Mike I had the exact same reaction! I am a registerd Skype customer from back in the early days before it became part of the Microsoft empire. But I don't use it much at all and haven't stayed up to date on its offerings. 

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mhhf1ve
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3/8/2016 7:51:51 PM
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Skype has had a weird history... No one seems to know what to do with it. Would eBay users ever want to communicate via Skype? Oh well. didn't happen... Would people watching TV want to Skype each other? Maybe? Oops. nope. 

Will Skype still exist on Xbox? As part of Outlook.com? As part of Outlook for business? Who knows? 

Will Skype survive after everyone has moved onto Slack and WhatsApp? Probably not. 

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elizabethv
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3/9/2016 5:12:06 AM
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Skype is used pretty regularly in my place of business. I work for a treatment center and it allows our clients to communicate with legal staff and family that are located out of town. While many users are switching to other apps that might meet their more precise needs on their phones, from my experience Skype seems to have tried to diversify outside of that atmosphere. I do agree it will likely only last a few more years before being replaced by more modern technology, but it may not completely disappear. If they are smart they have enough groudwork laid in other areas. 

Do you think it's possible for Skype to come up with a business plan to survive? 

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Mike Robuck
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3/9/2016 12:21:55 PM
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@elizabethv, what about HIPPA requirements, does Skype provide enough security and privacy? I know that's a big deal for healtcare providers' broadband services. 

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Ariella
Ariella
3/10/2016 8:45:30 AM
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@Mike Interesting question. Is it any less secure than a standard phone or cell phone? Certainly healthcare providers use those. I do think, though, that for the healthcare businesses that offer live video exams, they would use something else.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
3/10/2016 1:54:10 PM
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> " Is it any less secure than a standard phone or cell phone?"

You might be surprised at what HIPAA covers and what it doesn't. I know a few doctors who don't use SMS, but some HIPAA-approved messaging apps. Calls and faxes are all good for some reason... but SMS? nope. 

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Ariella
Ariella
3/10/2016 1:56:59 PM
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@mhhf1ve there's another reason to ban SMS. I read an account of a nurse who was using her phone for instructions as well as personal use. She got distracted by the personal texts so that she didn't follow up on the direction, which was a pretty crucial step for the patient pre-surgery. The patient survived, but just barely. 

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freehe
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3/10/2016 6:07:27 PM
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Great article, it's unfortunate that it took Skype six years to realize the TV app was a failure. I wasn't aware they offered a TV app either. I have a Skype account and never received any advertisements about the TV app.

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Ariella
Ariella
3/10/2016 6:12:17 PM
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@freehe Do you get other ads about Skype services? I don't think I do unless I log on, which I don't do very frequently at all.

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Writerfo10281
Writerfo10281
3/10/2016 9:11:06 PM
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Re: Skype
We actually use the app, but through a gaming system, so I'm not sure if that will go away or not.  We like the TV option, because it allows family to see us and our dogs (I have young nephews)  :)  

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freehe
freehe
3/11/2016 9:04:59 AM
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Ariella, sometimes I just don't remember seeing an ad for the TV app.

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vnewman
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3/11/2016 6:03:34 PM
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I also never heard of such a thing either, but this doesn't surprise me, given that people aren't even using their TV for TV watching these days with the advent of Hulu, Netflix and the like...

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batye
batye
3/12/2016 5:25:55 PM
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@vnewman  I would say we do have Paradigm shift, when consumers use TV for everythning else as media platfom and laptop/tablet to watch a movie/news :) 

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faryl
faryl
3/21/2016 2:06:04 AM
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@Ariella I wonder if, since it's a VOIP/data application vs. telephone, Skype calls are subject to HIPAA rules, while cell phone calls are not. I think HIPAA focuses more on records & data.

My brother's a doctor and can't access any of his work-related emails, etc. unless he's going through the hospital's VPN, if I remember correctly. I'm not sure how texts are treated, though I think he has a separate phone specifically for work use too.


(I'm going to ask him tomorrow!)

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/21/2016 3:24:25 AM
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@faryl: To be more precise, HIPAA is pretty tech-agnostic.  It's just a matter of what hospital and organization compliance teams can and can't touch directly.  Onsite workstations, yes.  Personal cell phones...tougher.

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batye
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3/21/2016 5:54:26 AM
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@faryl  interesting to know, thanks for sharing :) keep us posted... - thanks

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Ariella
Ariella
3/21/2016 11:20:55 AM
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@faryl that's a very interesting question, and I would love to get the answer from you after you hear back from your brother. It's always good to get the information from the people who have to really live with the regulations in a practical sense. 

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faryl
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3/23/2016 9:27:12 PM
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So, my brother didn't have much to add to enlighten the conversation! He said that as long as phones are locked and password protected, it doesn't seem to be a concern.

That said, they are also careful not to use patient's names in texts.

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Ariella
Ariella
3/23/2016 11:48:52 PM
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@faryl Good to know! Thanks for looking into it and sharing your findings. 

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faryl
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3/20/2016 2:35:26 PM
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The one thing I've used skype for is podcasts.

For some reason that seems to a common application to use for podcasts with people at multiple locations.  I'm not sure if it's the ease of adding & dropping participants (not sure why it would be any stronger than google hangouts) or if it has more robust options available for recording (or maybe has a standard plug-in for some of the more popular podcasting software.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/21/2016 6:48:45 PM
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Me too!

The only thing that I've ever really used Skype for are podcasts. I might have went on to video chat a handful of times in my life, but I did use it for podcasts. I'm not sure why so many people use Skype for that?

I don't see Skype pulliing the Smart TV App making such a difference, but hopefully it doesn't hurt them.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/23/2016 12:23:49 PM
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Re: Skype
Skype was one of the early free video-chat applications available.  They did a very good job branding themselves, and -- consequently -- Skype as a video-chat service continues to enjoy an enormous following today.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/23/2016 7:50:59 PM
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Re: Skype
Yes, very true.

I was just never really a huge fan of Skype. I don't know if it's my generation or what? Honestly, I was more hooked on my phone than a computer. However, when the Skype app came out I remember that being a big thing!

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/26/2016 9:56:59 AM
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Re: Skype
@dlr: I think Skype has generally enjoyed more adoption on desktops and laptops (and even tablets) than on phones.

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dlr5288
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3/28/2016 1:33:39 PM
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Yeah, I guess I'm just so hooked on my phone.

I'm just used to facetime and apps like that rather than Skype on a laptop. I know people can enjoy that. It's just something I'm not accustomed to.

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mpouraryan
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3/28/2016 2:00:28 PM
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..and to add to that thought, w/WhatsApp bringing on "live interaction" Skype will eventually dissipate..no question.    

Fascinating to be witness to it all on the eve of another Quarter.....

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/28/2016 7:40:57 PM
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Re: Skype
Agreed.

I mean as we move through a period of digital transformation and the new advances in the world I, personally, think Skype will become a thing of the past.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/30/2016 9:20:36 AM
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Re: Skype
@dlr: Skype has a mobile app/mobile functionality, too.  Were you aware, or do you not like the app for some reason?

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/30/2016 4:04:35 PM
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Oh yes I was aware and I remember a couple years ago downloading it. At least on my phone it was very blurry and the connection was always awful on my end. After that I just got rid of it and use FaceTime, if I ever feel the need to videochat.

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Joe Stanganelli
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3/31/2016 10:04:38 AM
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@dlr: I see.  Thanks for sharing.  I'm not sure if I've ever actually used videoconferencing apps on my phone (though I know many who have), so I wouldn't know.

I've certainly used a number of them on my desktop and laptop, however.  ;)

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/31/2016 2:40:09 PM
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Yeah I feel like the apps are usually slower and have a weaker connection than most desktops. It's just my opinion that I like using FaceTime more. But I know many other people, including yourself, like videochatting over Skype on laptops.

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faryl
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4/1/2016 12:17:31 AM
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I just ended up needing to use Skype on my phone to call into a podcast, because my Skype desktop app stopped letting me log in. The folks on the other end said I sounded clear, but as soon as I got an incoming call, Skype dropped out ... I definitely prefer FaceTime for mobile - will try to stick to my desktop for future Skyping!

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batye
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4/1/2016 7:57:33 AM
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@faryl I do not know why but many of my customers have almost the same complaines about skype on mobile and on hand held gaming devices... myself I prefer to use skype on laptop...

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
4/20/2016 7:00:30 PM
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@dlr: Not to specifically attribute this to you, but it is common for mobile apps to run slower than desktop/laptop solutions simply because people reboot / turn off their mobile devices (especially phones) far less than they do their desktops and laptops. 

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batye
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4/1/2016 7:55:31 AM
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Re: Skype
@Joe Stanganelli same here I prefer video conferencing on desktop or laptop... 

but once I tryed my brother's iphone 6s Face Time with Polish relative in Europe 

and I like it... but I do not wanna spend money on iphone... :(...

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
4/20/2016 7:01:24 PM
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As long as you're willing to sign a 2-year contract with a carrier, you can usually get an iPhone for cheap or even (if it's an outdated model) free.

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batye
batye
4/20/2016 10:21:36 PM
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@Joe Stanganelli  in USA yes, you could in Canada even with 2 years contract you still be paying too much even for older iphone model...

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/30/2016 10:43:38 AM
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Absolutely, it also has a lot to do with personal choice. If someone is very adaptable with new stuff they would just pass on skype like things. Whereas on the other hand people that gnereally struggle to step out of their comfort zone, would love to continue with their favourites like Skype. :)

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faryl
faryl
3/23/2016 9:24:37 PM
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Honestly, I can't think of many things less appealing than the idea of my head appearing on someone's big screen smart TV as they video-chatted on skype with me!

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/28/2016 1:21:34 PM
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Haha yes!

I honestly just feel like the whole Skype phase is dying. I'm not really sure who is still using is to talk to people. Usually if people want to talk to someone face to face over a device they use facetime.

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faryl
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3/28/2016 5:15:45 PM
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Agreed. It's something that served a purpose, but now the technology has become a default feature on so many devices, it's redundant.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/28/2016 7:43:38 PM
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Exactly!

And it's my opinion that people would just rather use their phone than go on a laptop or desktop. Consumers are always wanting things quick and right away. As do I. So it makes sense to just pull out your phone and facetime with someone rather than go on Skype.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/30/2016 9:19:50 AM
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@dlr: I think it's different strokes for different folks.  My girlfriend is all about her phone -- using it for almost everything (although preferring to break out her laptop when she wants to look at things on a bigger sccreen, such as pictures of food for recipes).  I, on the other hand, prefer to use my phone strictly on an "on-the-go" basis -- and much prefer having the bigger screen, enhanced functionality, and bigger keyboard that a laptop or desktop offers.

Plus, gaming is entirely different between the two types of devices.  ;)

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Joe Stanganelli
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3/30/2016 9:05:24 AM
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Re: Skype
Skype is often used as a pseudonymous option for voice chat, so there's that.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/30/2016 3:59:40 PM
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Good point.

And I agree I do think that Skype has certain programs that consumers enjoy using. However, I would much rather pick up my cell phone than have to go on a desktop and wait for Skype to load. That's just my own personal opinion though.

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faryl
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4/1/2016 12:13:09 AM
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Like the "Kleenex" of voice chat :)

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/30/2016 10:39:31 AM
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@dhr5288:

I agree that face time has now become very popular for conversations. But i still think there are folks that use skype too. Face Time is only possible in smart phones and devices whereas skype could be leveraged in any desktops and laptops. The use of Skype could be diminishing in western countries. But it may stay alive at other geographies.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/30/2016 4:01:50 PM
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Yes, that's true. I didn't really think of that.

I guess having a desktop handy is more likely than having an iphone. I know Skype is still growing and has programs that people today still like using. I guess it's just a personal preference of mine.

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batye
batye
4/1/2016 7:59:55 AM
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@dlr5288 I would say it also depends on the hardware you using for skype... as it seems with constant updates skype demand latest and greatest hardware to work properly... it like never ending upgrade...

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dlr5288
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4/25/2016 8:13:50 PM
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True..

Personally, i just don't have the likeness for Skype. Not saying I would never use it, but more than likely I'd use another way of videochatting before I resorted to Skype. I just think it's one of those things that I just never got into.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
3/8/2016 7:55:38 PM
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How does Skype even work now?
Skype was once a P2P messaging application -- that *could* be encrypted end-to-end... But I think that version ceased to exist years ago. So now it's just like Google Hangouts with a few missing features and a few added ones. 

Messaging apps are going to be big.. but I'm not sure Skype is going to be able to ride the next wave. The history of "instant messaging" has a long line of failures. If MSFT isn't careful, Skype could be another billion dollar writedown someday.

 

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Ariella
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3/8/2016 8:02:08 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@mhhf1ve Years ago people were using it to make free calls -- with the option of video -- to places that had traditionally incurred high long distance charges. I wasn't really making those kinds of calls. I got it because some clients expected to be able to communicate via Skype, even though most of them used it as just a phone. Some were in Thailand, the UK, etc. and didn't want the phone charges.

I think I've only used it once for video because one person wanted to see me. But I found it a bit spotty. Some calls had more than one false start, and in one case, the guy who suggested it to connect gave up and just called me on my phone.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
3/8/2016 8:23:17 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
Skype to phone calls were what made Skype really popular. (I think it was called SkypeOut at one time?) And people use it as a "poor man's" videoconferencing tool... but as you point out, it's pretty spotty and "best efforts" internet connections aren't really great for high-quality video conferencing.

Skype used to be pretty good for sending files, too. Since it was a P2P platform, it could transfer files to a group of people pretty nicely... but I think that feature has disappeared? Dropbox and other services fill that role now... and I don't think MSFT wants to get into the legal liability of people sharing copyrighted files via Skype.

I'm wondering when Google Voice will try to merge with Hangouts and be more like Skype.. or if Google will eventually kill off Google Voice... 

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Ariella
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3/8/2016 8:34:46 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@mhhf1ve Google was doing its own phone service. Does that still exist? I never tried it.

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mhhf1ve
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3/8/2016 8:44:04 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
> "Google was doing its own phone service.."

Hmm. Google Voice isn't exactly a phone service... it's a call forwarding service. So you need to have an existing phone, but then once you do.. you can set up another phone number (a Google Voice number) that will forward all your calls to your existing phone number. It's really really useful, actually. I use it all the time. 

Google also has Google Fi -- it's MVNO service. That's a mobile phone service that's built on top of Sprint ant T-Mo -- and allows phones on the service to use either network (and WiFi) to make calls and use data. And you can use Google Voice along with Google Fi.. so then that makes Google Voice an actual phone service. But I don't understand why Google doesn't make that combo more apparent... Google Voice has a ton of cool features -- eg. it transcribes voicemail robotically. It also lets you start recording a call at any time, so you can save it for notes later.... On top of the call forwarding, it also has a "call spam" filter -- so if you're getting calls from a number you don't want, you can send those calls to an automated message that says "this number is no longer in service. Goodbye."

Wish more phone services had all these features! (Ooma has some of them...)

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Ariella
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3/8/2016 8:51:14 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@mhhf1ve so that's how it works! I see. As i said, I never tried it. I noticed with Skype, it does give you an option of setting up a Skype number altogether, but that's one of the add-ons you pay for. I've only used it without any additional frills. 

Are the transcriptions on Google Voice completely acurate, or do they resemble closed captioning?

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
3/10/2016 11:01:02 AM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
Automated speech translation/transcription is far from perfect. I think Skype also has a transcription feature that also translates foreign languages -- but with all these automated speech services, you're not getting very accurate transcriptions. But they may be good enough for many situations. Think about how well Siri or Cortana understand what you say.... And that's about how accurate these things are now. Maybe Google is slightly better but not amazingly so.

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mpouraryan
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3/10/2016 11:22:57 AM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
Although not perfect--it is getting close.    I was also blown away recently as I saw Google incorporating Dragon-Like Features into Google Docs that I tested recently.    

Interesting times...for sure.....

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mhhf1ve
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3/10/2016 1:52:20 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
Speech recognition has been around for decades... and I'm surprised at how long Nuance has been dominating the sector. It might not be too long, tho, before some deep learning startup figures out how to do automated speech recognition better than Nuance's tech.

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vnewman
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3/10/2016 6:29:32 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@mhhf1ve. Hmmmm. Even someone like Apple maybe? Or MSFT for that matter. Why not harness Siri or Cortanas technology for use in a full fledged add-in? I tried to integrate Nuance several times into our environment and gave up. More trouble than it was worth. People weren't willing put in the time to train the app properly

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
3/11/2016 4:34:23 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
I would argue we're already here--The testing I did on Google Doc was really impressive and was leaps and bounds beyond Nuance.

Fascinating times--no question....

 

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vnewman
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3/11/2016 5:58:44 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@mpouraryan - I personally am not familiar with this functionality in Google Doc - could you elaborate?  Does it have a name?  My firm blocks all of the Google products as they've been deemed a security risk by our auditors - so I can't see it first hand at the moment...

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Joe Stanganelli
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3/21/2016 3:27:34 AM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
> My firm blocks all of the Google products as they've been deemed a security risk by our auditors

Conversely, PwC -- one of the world's premiere auditors, by all yardsticks -- uses Google apps and products throughout their organization.

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Ariella
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3/21/2016 11:46:29 AM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@Joe Ah, the irony! I really get the sense that many of these security rules are more the product of particular biases of people who get to make the decisions than of objective data results.

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vnewman
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3/21/2016 1:39:12 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@Joe @Ariella - At our firm, we work with a lot of social security and credit cards numbers so there's security measures in place for almost anything and everything.  If a file goes out in an email that has either of things in it, it is automatically encrypted.  If you want to upload a file to an ftp site, it has to be on the approved list.  You can't even upload pictures to Shutterfly or any photo sharing sites.   You can download from Dropbox but not upload.  Google Drive, Docs, Gmail, etc are all blocked.

All personal email sites are blocked so you can't copy information from your computer into an email (but it doesn't stop you from sending it there).  You can't copy from your local computer to your Citrix session and vice-versa.  This is just the tip of the iceburg.  The list of contraints is long and exhausting, frankly.  And sometimes it gets in the way of doing business.

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Ariella
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3/21/2016 2:07:22 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@vnewman I understand the frustration you must have in working around the constraints. However, I know that the people who set it up are just trying to cover themselves and the make the systems as secure and compliant as possible. I've interviewed some people in charge of IT at organizations that deal with health information, financial data, etc., and their conservative stance is usually a function of both regulations and thier own caution abou the potential for loss of control in shadow IT applicatons. 

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/30/2016 10:50:37 AM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
I can relate 100% as the things that you listed all apply at my work place as well - totally 100%.

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Joe Stanganelli
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3/23/2016 12:16:55 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@Ariella: I think I agree with you.  I really do wonder (I don't criticize the decision; I just wonder about it) about why PwC made the switch to Google at the cost of severely alienating Microsoft -- one of their major customers.  I'm curious what the factors of that decision were for the powers that be.

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batye
batye
3/12/2016 5:27:29 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@mpouraryan yes, we are living in interesting time where technology everywhere in our life...

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mpouraryan
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3/12/2016 11:10:01 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
The question, though, is how to make sure that the human touch is never forgotten.  That's the key driving force all of us have to concern ourselves with.   It seems to be "lost" in the shuffle as we see the rise of Artificial Intelligence and other advents in tech advancement.

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faryl
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3/20/2016 2:39:39 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@mpouraryan I agree. I find applications such as "Be My Eyes" an interesting direction in the use of technology.  It's an app that connects blind people with sighted people so that they can share a video of something and get assistance from the the sighted person (e.g., finding out the expiration date on a food product, or asking what color something is when picking out clothing).

Instead of creating AI solutions, it maximizes the potential of connecting humans with each other to create solutions to common problems.

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mpouraryan
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3/20/2016 2:50:54 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@Faryl:  That's why technology is to be celebrated--maybe I am getting "old" in not appreciating the evolution and advent of gaming, for instance--although I am glad for instance to see that our former Governor has lent his image to a game of Mortal Combat, that's not transformation--transformation is about making lives better and enhancing the quality of life that otherwise would not be there.    

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faryl
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3/20/2016 3:40:09 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@mpouraryan Absolutely! When I was a kid, we weren't allowed to play video games because my folks thought they were a waste of time (and they didn't want us hanging out at arcades! LOL!). Now they have video games that have people collaborating to figure out cures for diseases!

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mpouraryan
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3/20/2016 3:43:44 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@faryl:  Such transformations are indeed to be celebrated.   I, for instance, participate in the World Community Grid that works to "Crowdsource" computing power to help cure disease and address some of the profound challenges we face.   If that's not an example of transformation (as is our focus) I'm not sure what is--what I don't' see as transformation is the exploitation of Technology for narrow selfish ends (e.g. Kardashians') as we're witness to (including the dark web which is in and of itself a very challenging subject to assess).

 

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faryl
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3/21/2016 1:46:13 AM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@mpouraryan I'm going to check out the World Community Grid - that definitely sounds like one of the transformations to be celebrated!

To play devil's advocate to your point about other uses: I've read that the porn industry has actually driven a great deal of technological innovation with respect to filming techniques and file-sharing...if so, then not all of the more "narrow selfish ends" are necessarily a bad thing or waste.

Somewhat similarly, the dark web allows for the privacy necessary for whistle-blowers to maintain anonymity. And while Silk Road certainly had some nefarious usage, the rating system allowed users of recreational drugs such as MDMA and mushrooms to do so more safely, which at least served for some harm reduction...more importantly, I think it opened up a new mindset for non-mainstream marketplaces.  (I'm not trying to downplay the risks it creates by creating an avenue for human trafficking and other crimes though).

What I'm getting at is that sometimes the less-than-noble motivations can pave the way for more positive transformation opportunities. :-)

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mpouraryan
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3/21/2016 1:59:07 AM
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Thanks for embracing the World Community Grid.      As for your other thoughts you shared, such folks have to be more transformative ever more--I would suggest that the initial advent of BitCoin and its' successors are in this spirit.

 

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faryl
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3/21/2016 2:10:40 AM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@mpouraryan I agree- bitcoin is an excellent example.

Similarly, torrenting is frequently used for pirating, but I believe the seeding functionality is something that can be used for applications similar to the World Community Grid.

(so maybe Napster helped change the world for the better too!)

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mpouraryan
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3/21/2016 2:06:02 PM
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..and to your end, Sean Parker's new venture to bring new Movie releases is also quite a transformational event that may end up take the wind out of pirated movies.    We have scratched the surface.   

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Joe Stanganelli
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3/23/2016 12:25:43 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@mpouraryan: Interesting observation.  Indeed, the Apple store certainly took the wind out off the sails out of music piracy (pun acknowledged).

At least, until YouTube came along.

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3/23/2016 12:41:50 PM
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There is no question Apple is to be admired--As for YouTube, I am seeing increasing requests for takedowns.   Creative Commons is how we operate at the Daily Outsider--and one of the things we try to be dilligent about is how we try and feature our Friday Musical Interlude by making sure that we feature officially sanctioned Youtube..it starts with us--doesn't it?

 

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Joe Stanganelli
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@mpouraryan: Indeed.  And it also takes realizing that you don't get around copyright law by admitting your violating copyright law.  ("This isn't mine.  I stole it from someone else, but it's okay because I'm saying so right here.")

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mpouraryan
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3/26/2016 11:18:57 AM
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What you underscored is the old admonition that ignorance of the law is no defense.    On a side note, I have had reasonably good experience w/Skype on Phone--although I am of the view that Skype was never designed per se to be "phone-ready.

Wishing all a Happy Easter!!! 

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Joe Stanganelli
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3/27/2016 6:18:00 PM
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Indeed -- or, as we budding lawyers are taught in law school, "Ignorantia legis neminem excusat."  (Both the medical and the legal professions adore Latin.)



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mpouraryan
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3/27/2016 7:58:30 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
Maybe falling back on traditions may be the saving grace for us all.   We have to hang on to something, right?

 

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Joe Stanganelli
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3/28/2016 8:41:49 AM
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@mpouraryan: Do we?  Or, rather, does this "hanging on" prevent our freedom -- to progress?

Latin is pretty cool, though.

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mpouraryan
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3/28/2016 1:58:26 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
Transformation, as I see it, means that we have to be willing and able to change--we have all be witness to those who have not as adaptable.    Anyone remember Digital, for instance?   The prominence Digital had in an old George Clooney/Nicole Kidman Movie as Nicole Kidman banged away on one of the Digital Laptops is striking....I would humbly suggest though we have got to make sure the best of our traditions is maintained for the sake of a sense of purpose.

Onward to Q2 

:)))

 

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Joe Stanganelli
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
Spam Nation by Brian Krebs is an excellent book related to this topic.  The book focuses on (primarily Russian) spammers -- while highlighting how virtually all cybercrime is interrelated through organized crime syndicates and intersects with "real life" crimes like drug trafficking and human trafficking.

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Ariella
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3/10/2016 11:27:43 AM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@mhhf1ve Interesting that you bring that up. I recently did a call with Japan with a translator on that end. The call was recorded, but they are waiting on the transcription. It seems they need a special service for that. The people in Japan had suggested using Skype, but I really did not want to rely on it based on my previous experience with it.

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batye
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3/10/2016 1:43:13 PM
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@Ariella interesting to know, thanks for sharing... 

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mhhf1ve
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3/10/2016 1:50:28 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
Language translation services are getting more sophisticated all the time. There are tons of interesting applications -- like Viki -- where crowdsourced translators are teamed up with software to make translations faster and more accurate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viki_(website)

Doing it for Korean dramas seems to be a profitable way to spread videos internationally... And it might someday also help to translate/transcribe voicemails, possibly? 

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Ariella
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3/10/2016 1:55:14 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
@mhhf1ve yes, it can have quite a few applications.  Certainly what is largely accessible now needs improvement. When I apply Google translate to text, which I would think should be a bit simpler than building off speech recognition in one lanaguage and translating into another, I still often get something that doesn't read like passable English. I get that the idioms and syntax could throw things off, but sometimes I even know what the words in the other language mean and find the translation rather off.

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faryl
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3/20/2016 2:31:37 PM
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Re: How does Skype even work now?
I think the changes in costs for mobile phone plans, the inclusion of facetime and even facebook offering a voice "calling" option with IM have significantly changed the market too.


Skype's been around since the first VOIP options became available for consumers - I remember it being incredibly popular with friends who wanted to communicate with people outside the US - but this was back before myspace and facebook. We have so many different ways to stay connected now, relying on a skype call seems almost antiquated! :-)

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clrmoney
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3/14/2016 11:46:12 AM
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skypes plug pull
I don't think it is a good idea and I also noticed on Skype you can't do the chat message on the library computer soI don't know why that is. I think they should keep as many options and business ventures as they can.

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dlr5288
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3/15/2016 2:05:23 PM
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Consumers
I understand Skype's decision to no longer use the Smart TV App. I get that they are trying to move forward and see what the consumers are using and for the most part it's iPhones.

However, I do also think that for the consumers that do use the Smart TV App this is a huge blow. I think that Skype should keep as many doors open for consumers as possible, unless there's not enough money there.

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4/26/2016 6:35:25 PM
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I feel like even with Skype pulling the Smart TV App, I don't think it will hurt them too bad. For the most part, I don't think too many costumers use this. Otherwise Skype would never be getting rid of it. For the people who do use the Smart TV App, they can get this at other places than Skype. When it comes down to it though, if it was being used by a lot of consumers then they wouldn't be done with it.

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