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afwriter
afwriter
4/5/2016 11:09:32 PM
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Re: IoT sensors in all shipments?
That idea sounds brilliant, and I know that it would be a few years down the road, but even then I am wondering how cost effective it would be.  I understand it is only an example and the same annalagy could be used toward large warehouses and the like.  It is a fresh idea and I look forward to living in a world like that one. 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/5/2016 9:48:34 PM
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Re: IoT sensors in all shipments?
In many ways USPS already is an internet of things operation; the scanners and sorting systems and tracking all put together are very close to it.  True, the barcodes on the packages don't yet talk to each other and only express identity to the main system; one can imagine a USPS 2.0 where every package records where it goes, so that if it isn't where it's supposed to be, it can "phone home" for a ride, or if it's missed, it can answer an APB for itself.  But short of that, postal automation has already created a very IoT system -- just not a very mediagenic one!

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/5/2016 9:45:06 PM
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Re: Acquire and disable
I don't think I could possibly disagree more. Selling a consumer a product and then deliberately making it not work should be treated as theft and fraud. Perhaps it's not possible to do perpetual maintenance and upgrades, but, just for example, it would be trivial to alter the laws so that when an operating system or other essential software is abandoned, it loses all copyright protection and anyone can copy and sell it. The courts really should have been all over it when consumer software companies initially got into the scam of selling "versions" and "upgrades" that were de facto confessions that their initial products were defective.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/5/2016 8:59:07 PM
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IoT sensors in all shipments?
> "With the use of IoT sensors in drug packaging, Track and Trace monitors prescription drug shipments across the distribution and supply chains...."

This makes me wonder when Amazon and other ecommerce/retailers will start chipping every shipment -- it's a bit more granular data than scanned bar codes.... 

Perhaps USPS will be the first government entity to adopt the Internet of Things?

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/5/2016 6:37:41 PM
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Re: Acquire and disable
I wonder how the businesses that still rely on 2G wireless and are experiencing the 2G "sunset" feel about the possibilities of IoT support to continue indefinitely. Older M2M networks are going to die off on AT&T by the end of this year, I think.... And Sprint already shut down its older wireless networks. I think VZW isn't going to shut down its 2G CDMA network for a few more years still? So maybe VZW is in a better position to say that it will continue to support older tech for longer?

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Michelle
Michelle
4/5/2016 5:32:30 PM
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Re: Acquire and disable
@Mike yes, I did notice the report was about business. There will be at least some intersect between the two worlds (eventually). I assume support for industrial or business-centered devices will continue far longer than consumer counterparts.

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Mike Robuck
Mike Robuck
4/5/2016 2:57:46 PM
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Re: Acquire and disable
The report was more about businesses, but he did make a point of saying consumer IoT was also going to ramp up.  On the narroband IoT end, Verizon is going to release its Cloud APIs to developers in beta for mobile apps, such as Photobucket, etc., to curate and retrieve photos, videos, music and other cloud-stored content.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/5/2016 2:27:52 PM
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Re: Acquire and disable
Home monitoring seems like a problematic market. On one hand, some consumers want to upgrade devices all the time, on a 2yr cycle or so.. but then there are also consumers who just want to install and keep things for as long as their 30yr mortgage. So home monitoring products need to appeal to a wide variety of needs. 

Security concerns are much harder to handle when products remain in service for decades. It's perhaps a "good thing" to get users accustomed to de-activating devices periodically..?

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/5/2016 2:16:47 PM
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interesting categories...
These 6 categories: Pharma, Home monitoring, Energy, Smart cities, Agriculture, Transportation -- don't seem to really touch on the consumer side of things that much (maybe home monitoring is the closest to the consumer?). So will IoT be considered mainstream before it gets to consumer activity?

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Michelle
Michelle
4/5/2016 2:09:08 PM
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Acquire and disable
What does the future look like when a company decides to disable older devices? Yesterday, Business Insider reported on the intentional shut off of older devices. These devices were from a company (Revolv) acquired in 2014. 

http://www.businessinsider.com/googles-nest-closing-smart-home-company-revolv-bricking-devices-2016-4

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