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elizabethv
elizabethv
5/19/2016 7:50:21 AM
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Re: Really does look like saturation under present conditions
I definitely agree that the market is at saturation. There aren't that many people that don't subscribe in some way to some kind of media content. Even the generational changes won't really bring in an increase in the market. Baby boomers are slowly leaving us, and even though stats say there are now more Millenials than Baby Boomers, Millenials (apparently I'm one, seriously didn't know that until recently) are already in the market. Barring a large wave of people coming to this country I don't really see a boom in the market. Just a re-arranging of the current subscribers. 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/19/2016 7:21:25 AM
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Re: pay tv providers
There are actually many ways to collect and distribute revenue so that new content creation distribution and creation is rewarded; the problem is more of a psychological hangup.  For some reason only the "ticket model" (I pay a separate fee for everything I use and I only get to consume what I paid for and the price is fixed by the supplier, etc.) is seen as really "fair," but it's a child's model of fairness, i.e. one that thinks only Mommy Market and Prince(ss) Kid are involved at all. (Part of the reason it takes a village to raise a child is that the child isn't raised till the child understands that the village , too, needs and deserves care.

There are many other ways to count content and to bill for it; nor are they necessarily worse. Does anyone really think the BBC, during its all-but-monopoly years, was really inferior to US commercial radio and TV? Or that European public libraries, which pay for content users copy/borrow in a way roughly proportionate to usage, are somehow less satisfactory than American libraries which pay once (except for the very most popular content that wears out)?

Indeed, nothing has gone farther to promote the "it should all just be free because intarwebz" ethos than the attempts by the former gatekeepers to keep the ticket model in place.

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batye
batye
5/19/2016 1:25:26 AM
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Re: pay tv providers
@mpouraryan  yes, but this days youth say - why pay at all if pirated app or other way I  could get it free... but free is not a "free" at the end... - how I see it...

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
5/19/2016 12:18:40 AM
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Re: pay tv providers
Here is the thing @batye:  there has to be value--why should one pay $ 200 for a service that one can get for a lot less?   The Pay Providers seem not to realize it--although Time Warner got out early enough.

 

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batye
batye
5/18/2016 12:45:50 PM
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Re: pay tv providers
@clrmoney as everyone looking at the end game = bottom line... one way or other...

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clrmoney
clrmoney
5/18/2016 10:50:14 AM
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pay tv providers
Pay Tv of course has million of dollars from paid subscribers so with them adding 10,000  subs for Q1 would increase in value and revenue.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/18/2016 7:38:00 AM
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Really does look like saturation under present conditions
The giveaway is that although AT&T lost 380,000, more than twice the growth of Q1 last year, the loss was completely absorbed by the overall market; nearly every AT&T customer must have found somewhere else to go rather than exit the market. At saturation (the point where there are no new customers and competition consists in moving the old ones around), it's a zero-sum game: total gains and losses balance exactly. It looks as if present tech, pricing, and institutional arrangements are reaching saturation.

If that 10,000 gets abruptly bigger, it will be because something really revolutionary has happened.  Which, coincidentally, is something that happens pretty often in this field.

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