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clrmoney
clrmoney
6/10/2016 3:41:07 PM
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netflix devices
Netflix does big business and you would think TV would be in the lead because of CD's etc. but it is smartphones. They they will offer more services with the apps and decies they have available to the public going into the future.

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batye
batye
6/13/2016 1:58:20 AM
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Re: netflix devices
@clrmoney soon cd/dvd gonna be things of the past as everywhere Digital Media....

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afwriter
afwriter
6/10/2016 6:00:57 PM
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Averages
"Averaged out across the globe, the total number of devices equated to four devices per household."

Who has a negative amount of devices to average out my household?  And yes Netflix is on every single one of them. 


Also, along with a few of the other big players like Vudu and Amazon, remotes are starting to come standard with a Netflix button to expidite your Netflix viewing process. 

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vnewman
vnewman
6/10/2016 6:48:10 PM
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Re: Averages
Those are pretty impressive numbers and it seems like it will only grow - I just wonder why Netflix stock is continually on the decline then?

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afwriter
afwriter
6/10/2016 6:55:57 PM
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Re: Averages
My guess is that the amount of money that they are putting into original programming is not getting the ROI that investors want yet.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/12/2016 7:52:14 PM
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Re: Averages
The question is one of value--I have Netflix on my ROKU, Amazon FireStick & My Amazon Fire Tablet--but will I watch it?   Will I walk away with original Amazon Productions?    Being available is one thing--traffic is another.   That's the challenge.

 

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batye
batye
6/13/2016 2:23:31 AM
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Re: Averages
@mpouraryan interesting point I would add the show value... are you enjoying what are you watching...
for me old 1960 shows like The Twilight Zone and The Time Tunnel - have best value for the time spend watching... 

but to each his own...

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/13/2016 2:25:42 AM
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Re: Averages
Content, though, is becoming devalued--for instance, look at the thousands of selections available on Amazon Prime, etc.--Starz, for instance, has an immense selection.   How do content creators sustain  it all--that's the challenge.

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batye
batye
6/13/2016 2:31:14 AM
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Re: Averages
@mpouraryan yes I could not agree more.. as competition for viewers and many shows do get canceled after first season or even after few episods...

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/14/2016 5:59:26 PM
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Re: Averages
..what is amazing how the content is being Devalued--and the challenge for all content creators (including myself w/what is being done at @DailyOutsider) to monetize the content in as righteous way as possible.

 

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batye
batye
6/14/2016 6:47:15 PM
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Re: Averages
@mpouraryan most of the time it product placement inside the shows as hidden advertisement.... but they trying any each way possible...

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
6/14/2016 6:47:47 PM
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Re: Averages
> "what is amazing how the content is being Devalued..."

Hmm. Some content is reaching the highest values ever, though. Distribution is relatively cheap, so it's almost free nowadays to spread a viral "Chewbacca mask" video. I suppose it depends on how content is "valued" in the first place, but there are many kinds of content that are have surprisingly high valuations (eg. Twitch videos, Let's Play videos, etc)

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/14/2016 8:36:39 PM
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Re: Averages
What you're underscoring is how "gaming" seems to be where the money is.     That's all well and good--I can't help but be amazed as the breath of offerings that is free and available on Prime/etc.  How we sustain it is the challenge.

 

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
6/14/2016 10:27:21 PM
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Re: Averages
Well, not just gaming, though. Sure, gaming seems to be a highly valuable form of content now, but viral videos unrelated to gaming have also accumulated a surprising amount of revenue. The woman with the Chewbacca mask just got her kids college tuition paid for. Maybe it's not possible to create another Seinfeld or Friends sitcom, but content wealth is still being created in all kinds of new ways.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/15/2016 12:27:20 PM
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Re: Averages
I am with you @mhhf1ve that as long as the "niche" is there, people will come--and it will monetize.   Look at the "stars" that have evolved on YouTube et. al--my hat's off to them!!! 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
6/15/2016 5:14:59 PM
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Re: Averages
> "Look at the "stars" that have evolved on YouTube et. al.."

Yes, that said.. I also recognize that the old-school media system that created broadcast sitcoms and mass-market blockbuster movies... is having a difficult time producing the same kind of "hits" as they did in, say, the 1980s-90s. The media market is now highly fragmented and audiences aren't in a single place much anymore -- except maybe around the SuperBowl still? I'm not sure what the benchmark is nowadays for a "huge" media event..... 

And that's why content seems to be "devalued" now -- because it's harder to find a time-synched mass audience than it used to be. If we landed another man on the moon now, the audience who would watch it would be relatively miniscule, compared to the households that watched in 1969.... (And that's why State of the Union addresses are on YouTube now.. no one watches broadcast TV anymore.)

I really wonder how much of a impact the digital transition had on broadcast TV... People who used to be able to watch a fuzzy broadcast channel using rabbit ear antennas just get a solid blue screen or a incomprehensible video stream filled with flickering digital artifacts and choppy audio. Digital broadcast TV is okay for some fraction of the audience, but I think a significant part of the market must have switched to cableTV or OTT video by now.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/16/2016 11:17:05 PM
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Re: Averages
The impact has been huge--look at for instance what CBS is doing with CBSN--it is able to at any moment to broadcast from anywhere at anytime...for free!!!   if you want unlimited streaming, you can get it for like $ 10/month...that's why I am saying the value is decreasing...and we all know about Amazon Prime with all that it is doing--and all that it still can do simply because of the amount of revenue prime customers (estimated at 62 Million) are doing.

Fascinating times.....

 

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Michelle
Michelle
6/30/2016 5:53:09 PM
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Re: Averages
I didn't know about CBSN. I guess that's a good option for those who have trouble getting a decent over the air signal, but have reliable high speed Internet.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/30/2016 5:56:21 PM
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Re: Averages
CBSN is a noble effort--but what Pluto is doing is even more fascinating with some of the varities available--it is indeed dependent upon the bandwith--as such quite fascinting ot be witness to.

 

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Michelle
Michelle
6/30/2016 6:00:32 PM
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Re: Averages
Access to reliable high speed Internet is still a challenge in many areas. It will be interesting to see how this affects the industry as a whole (if that's possible).

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dlr5288
dlr5288
6/30/2016 8:56:00 PM
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Re: Averages
I feel like it will definitely affect it. In what ways, I don't know. It's so weird that a lot of places still don't have high speed internet. You would think by now if not all at least most places would.

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freehe
freehe
7/31/2016 9:11:13 AM
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Connected Devices
With the constant push of advertisers for consumers to purchase wearable gadgets to streamline their lives by reducing the number of devices needed, these statistics are not surprising.

I suspect in the next five years the statistics for all areas will decrease excluding smartphones and tablets/laptops. Smartphones in the future will be used for most services that consumers perform today with multiple devices.

Consumers want to use services anytime anywhere and do not want to be forced to sit in one location just to view a service such as cable TV or regular TV. Consumers no longer want to be stuck with landline phones, wires and cords.

However, this will greatly increase the need for more broadband infrastructure.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
7/31/2016 8:49:37 PM
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Re: Connected Devices
Very good points!

I agree, consumers don't want to be stuck using landlines and things like that. They need things quick and easy and want as much compacted in one device as possible.

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vnewman
vnewman
6/15/2016 5:16:42 PM
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Re: Averages
@mhhf1ve - It's a strange new world, isn't it?  I wish my great-grandparents were around to see this - they would be astounded how people are able to make money these days, when all they had at their disposal was hard-work and intestinal fortitude. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
6/15/2016 6:25:35 PM
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Re: Averages
> "how people are able to make money these days..."

Indeed. The future of work will be very interesting. Star Trek's abundance economy might not be too far off? If we can just figure out how to generate controlled nuclear fusion... we'll be all set for the next few centuries. :P

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batye
batye
6/13/2016 2:16:10 AM
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Re: Averages
@afwriter right now it like a gamble a wait and see :) 

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batye
batye
6/13/2016 2:14:53 AM
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Re: Averages
@vnewman I think you are right as Netflix wave is going down... plus problems in Canada - http://globalnews.ca/news/2454273/watching-us-netflix-in-canada-not-for-much-longer/...

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vnewman
vnewman
6/13/2016 2:24:24 PM
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Re: Averages
@Batye, well that's a shame - doesn't it seem like they should embrace the Canadian audience and not alienate them.  I get they have to negotiate the content that's available regionally, but trying to shut people off by cutting VPN access seems like bad karma.  Why not find a way to get the users what they are asking for?

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batye
batye
6/13/2016 2:30:28 PM
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Re: Averages
@vnewman it sad but it Canada... as Co. do cray things to customers and get away with it... it sad reality...

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elizabethv
elizabethv
6/11/2016 8:23:29 AM
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Re: Averages
Lol! Surely there must be a few people out there with these negative devices! ;-) Even in my household we're already at 4 devices, and that's just between my husband and I. Our oldest is just about ready to out grow his LeapPad - and my husband is ready for a new tablet. So we'll probably pass the old one down to my oldest, and the LeapPad down to the youngest when he finally decides on what he wants. Then we'll be at 5, I don't even want to know how many we'll end up with when they're teenagers. And like you, they all have Netflix. More than that, my 3 year old knows all his shows on Netflix and where to find them. I actually like the large selection, including of older shows, Netflix has. Once they roll out all the Disney movies in September, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see that number jump.

 

 

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batye
batye
6/13/2016 2:19:06 AM
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Re: Averages
@elizabethv I trust you are right and in September we gonna see numbers up as our kids getting smarter and smarter with technology plus with Netflix you will get instant Disney show on... with out wating like with cable or sat... and this days everyone do not want to wait... 

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batye
batye
6/13/2016 2:12:50 AM
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Re: Averages
@afwriter I would say Amazon and Netflix poping everywhere... almost on all devices, including even new prototype gaming 3D platforms...

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clrmoney
clrmoney
6/11/2016 10:53:25 AM
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connected devices
I not that TV was the lowest percentage when I thibk they should have beena little higher in ranks.

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Michelle
Michelle
6/12/2016 5:11:16 PM
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Market share across devices
This number isn't surprising at all. Netflix has done a very good job connecting its service to devices across platforms.

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vnewman
vnewman
6/13/2016 2:31:12 PM
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Re: Market share across devices
@Michelle, my guess would have been an even higher number, but I guess the crop of new streaming services are cutting into this percentage a bit.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
6/13/2016 5:42:32 PM
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Impressive..
I think the most impressive part about this Netflix dominance.. is that DRM must also be included on every device that Netflix runs on... so this also means that just about every device that can play video has some DRM capability, too. That might not be surprising for a powerful device like an Xbox or AppleTV, but a more obscure "smart TV" might not have that much extra built into it. So the spread of Netflix is also a signal that devices are in general trying to build in security software.

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vnewman
vnewman
6/15/2016 2:55:30 PM
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Re: Impressive..
Do you think the "Streaming bundle services" offered with TVs by retailers will cut into this share as many of the bundles are opting for players other than Netflix?

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