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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
7/18/2016 7:24:19 AM
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Re: The biggest problem with Google brain is it kills creativity
mhhf1ve,

 

"The last decade is far too short a time span for anything permanent to happen to the human population's overall intelligence..."


First of all, the reference was to critical thinking rather than intelligence, so the response is beside the point. Secondly, in fact for decades, there has been an about 3-point per decade rise in IQ, enough so that renormalization is required regularly, probably attributable to a wider use of critical and categorical thinking at earlier ages, but which has begun to slow and reverse in some economically advanced nations in the last decade. And finally, the abundance of evidence about environmental effects of information-poor (i.e. media-rich) environments on intelligence shows clear links between what kind of communication a kid spends time with and the kid's eventual functioning intelligence -- and early childhoods last a bit less than a decade.

Not buying that handwave at all. 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
7/18/2016 7:28:43 AM
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Re: The biggest problem with Google brain is it kills creativity
mpouraryan,

Although I could mount a pretty good defense of memorizing phone numbers -- arbitrary memorization is in fact a useful skill and you might as well practice on something that can be handy in an emergency -- the point is that genuine effective creative thought relies on a deep understanding of the concepts, both general and particular, on which one is operating. Moving information from an easily-found window to your own window and clicking to submit your pile of information is not only the opposite of that creative process; it's exactly that pile-of-factoids approach you're decrying.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
7/18/2016 7:35:05 AM
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Re: The biggest problem with Google brain is it kills creativity
mhhf1ve,

It's not so much that people are more educated as that they are differently educated, and that more of it comes in a school structure. And the process is hitting its limits:

http://www.informationweek.com/mobile/mobile-devices/as-iqs-fall-can-gamification-help/d/d-id/1109936?

The trouble is, we appear to be building a magic library in which the genies can instantly fetch you any book, open to the right page, but fewer and fewer people know enough to ask a proper question or understand the answer. And the defenders of the internet's corrosion of the mind keep telling us how many books there are and how fast the genies fly.

 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
7/18/2016 7:37:43 AM
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Re: The biggest problem with Google brain is it kills creativity
mpouraryan,

Granted immediately that the internet can and should be an equalizer on information access, it's of limited aid if people can't effectively use the information they're accessing. And pasting it in undigested (often unread) chunks is not "using" it for anything other than the exchange-for-points that the "content" mentality leads directly to.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
7/18/2016 3:07:08 PM
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Re: The biggest problem with Google brain is it kills creativity
The first to fix and to transform is to realize the problem--the question is how to solve it.   Recommendations?  

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
7/18/2016 3:08:27 PM
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Re: The biggest problem with Google brain is it kills creativity
What would you deem to be an 'Effective" Use of the internet?    It is a struggle at times for my current start-up @DailyOutsider and curious to see what your thoughts are on it. 

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freehe
freehe
7/31/2016 12:40:38 PM
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Re: The internet is alive
afwriter, I agree.

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freehe
freehe
7/31/2016 12:40:56 PM
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Re: Mindset
Wow everyone has good points on this topic.

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freehe
freehe
7/31/2016 12:46:07 PM
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Re: The biggest problem with Google brain is it kills creativity
I think the internet  has gone beyond its potential. I believe we are using it appropriately. But then, who defines what is appropriate.

It is up to the user and n how they use the internet to determine if it provides benefit to them.

If someone is looking for a fact about a topic and only use wikipedia or a blog without doing additional research from credible sources, is that the fault of the internet or the user. It is the user's fault because the internet provides credible and non-credible sources.

 

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freehe
freehe
7/31/2016 12:49:46 PM
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Re: The biggest problem with Google brain is it kills creativity
Saying, "The problems we are experiencing with the Internet are our fault. We have become enamored with our ability to connect; we have become obsessed as a society. Putting boundaries in place can help correct the problem."

is a statement I totally disagree with. Consumer did not create email, social media, the internet, VOD, OTT, texting, and other technologies that distract people from their daily activities, companies created this using the lame excuse that it would enrich our lives because our lives were so lousy before technology. Know we are starting to see the research that all this technology usage has side-effects and some have long-term effects.

Advertising and marketing has made consumer believe they need this technology and need to stay connected when they don't. People lived their live just fine without this technology.

 

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