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afwriter
7/4/2016 5:58:29 PM
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Connected Cars
As the main driver in my house, the idea of self driving cars facinates me on lomg road trips, but there are so many things that scare the bleep out of me too. Machines are perfect, fuses blow, and it only takes a second for one of these cars to fail and run off the road or worse. I get that that is why there is so much money being put into the technology, but it is still scary.
batye
7/5/2016 12:57:20 AM
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Re: Connected Cars
@afwriter with technology anything could go wrong... even basic device like fm radio could kill you...
afwriter
7/5/2016 1:27:48 AM
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@Batye that may be true, but there is a huge differene between moving at 70 MPH and listening to the radio while in the bath.
batye
7/5/2016 1:33:01 AM
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@afwriter yes and no as some home build fm radio's popular with survivalist - fm radio mercury antenna attract lightning :) true scary fact :(...
mhhf1ve
7/5/2016 4:01:32 AM
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Re: Connected Cars
I'm not so sure the "connected" part of the car is doing the self-driving. I think autonomous cars will have most of the computation done within the car itself, not broadcast to a datacenter for further not-so-real-time instructions. Sure, autonomous cars will be updating datacenters with after-the-fact data to help improve future driving events, but the wireless connection isn't critical for a self-driving car to actually drive -- that would be crazy.
mhhf1ve
7/5/2016 4:07:19 AM
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Re: Connected Cars
Unfortunately, a driver was recently killed in May while his Tesla was in Autopilot mode. The driver, Joshua Brown, may have been watching a DVD when his car collided with semi-truck trailer at full highway speed. Brown apparently was a geek who was fully aware of the shortcoming of Tesla's semi-autonomous software, but he trusted it too much.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/02/business/joshua-brown-technology-enthusiast-tested-the-limits-of-his-tesla.html?_r=0
It will be interesting to see how automakers react to this kind of tragedy. Will they treat it like a cheap ignition switch defect or will they take at least some responsibility for fatal accidents? I think Ford, Google and Volvo say they will take responsibility, but no one has died in one of their autonomous cars (yet)....
batye
7/6/2016 3:17:47 AM
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Re: Connected Cars
@mhhf1ve it a scary reality of self-driving cars, where software or hardware get fatal error... it scary...
mhhf1ve
7/6/2016 3:26:41 AM
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Semi-autonomous cars will get safer if they can share vehicle to vehicle V2V data among themselves. But there will need to be some kind of regulation to require ALL vehicles to communicate with each other -- so that semi-truck trailers can tell other cars when they're crossing multiple lanes of traffic. However, the cost of V2V systems will have to come down a lot. Trucking companies have been fighting against side rails that would have prevented the recent Tesla Autopilot death.
batye
7/6/2016 10:54:50 AM
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Re: Connected Cars
@mhhf1ve yes, you are right, but untill they fix all the bugs and make it safe... as it always a never ending process...
mhhf1ve
7/6/2016 1:05:57 PM
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Re: Connected Cars
On a per-mile basis, autonomous cars are arguably safer than humans, but they can't adapt to as many new situations (yet). Human drivers are far from perfect.
batye
7/6/2016 7:41:54 PM
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@mhhf1ve interesting point, but with technology you could not teach machine human intuition - yet :)
mhhf1ve
7/6/2016 8:46:16 PM
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Self-driving cars are a few more years away from anyone really trusting them. But in the meantime, we'll get more and more fancy IoT interfaces that will let our cars know where we are and try to push mobile services at us!
https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/06/alibaba-smart-car-iot-pre-order/
batye
7/6/2016 8:49:20 PM
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@mhhf1ve thanks for the link interesting reading... I think it gonna take time before everyone will accept self driving cars...
mhhf1ve
7/6/2016 9:22:41 PM
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It's going to take some time before self-driving cars are capable enough to actually be called level 4 autonomous vehicles! Tesla cars are still only at level 2 autonomous... and even Volvo says that Autopilot gives drivers a false impression of what to expect.
http://www.teslarati.com/volvo-engineer-calls-tesla-autopilot-wannabe/
batye
7/6/2016 9:27:53 PM
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@mhhf1ve yes, I could not agree more... as false impresion does create a confusion...
freehe
7/31/2016 10:05:04 AM
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Video, Cars, IoT
With any technology that is developed that needs to be a kill button/switch. I am leary of self-driving cars because of the design or most cars they technology may not be able to detect all possible threats or events on the road.
It is great that AT&T is truly becoming a leader in telco. As far as self-driving cars how will this implement the Department of Motor Vehicles, police and other entities across the country that generate revenue from tickets, driving lessons driver's permits and tests. Many will lose their jobs and the departments will have to change their entire business practices. How can a police officer give someone a ticket if they are technically not driving and the car is driving itself. Chuckles. But these are things to consider.
The one downside with integrated technology and technology like SIMs is when one component malfuctions and systems malfunction or stop working completely. This can lead to dangerous situations when using a self-driving car if properly precations and safeguards are not implemented.
I think companies need to slow down in terms of the race to market especially when developing products like self-driving cars that can have a terrible impact on the driver and other drivers if it malfuctions.
batye
8/1/2016 12:44:01 AM
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@freehe I would say you are 100% right as I do see the same trend Co. putting half-baked product to the market and customers must act as beta tester...
dlr5288
7/31/2016 9:32:32 PM
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Re: Connected Cars
I agree!
I think that its going to be a quite a little bit longer before automatic cars are an actual thing and are suitable to be able to be on the road.
mhhf1ve
8/4/2016 5:22:57 PM
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Re: Connected Cars
> ".. it's going to be a quite a little bit longer before automatic cars are an actual thing and are suitable to be able to be on the road."
It's not THAT much further into the future, though. It's quite amazing how far autonomous driving AI has progressed so far. Just a few years ago, autonomous cars couldn't complete the DARPA Grand Challenge, and now there are some on the roads, learning how to drive.
Sure, it'll take some time to figure out how to integrate autonomous cars with people-driven cars, but it'll happen someday. Perhaps there will be some transition period where autonomous cars will require a backup human driver, but after a few million miles of no accidents, then that requirement will fade away.
Car insurance companies are either going to be insanely profitable because there will be no more car accidents -- or they'll go out of business because no one needs to buy traditional car insurance anymore.
dlr5288
8/30/2016 1:19:25 PM
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Yeah I guess you're right! It's just hard to wrap my brain around the whole thing. Technology really is an incredible thing!
clrmoney
7/5/2016 5:28:31 PM
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This is great for them wanting to be involved in different things which means more revenue and more customers as technology advances into the future.
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