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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
7/31/2016 7:04:58 PM
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Re: Verizon's Ag IoT
@John:

Great length of details. I always cherish the wealth of information that you share in this forum and I truely appreciate that. Thank You!

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
7/31/2016 7:27:37 PM
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Re: Verizon's Ag IoT
Mind you, in real life I'm that immensely boring man who stands around lecturing people at parties.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
7/31/2016 7:49:38 PM
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Re: Verizon's Ag IoT
LOL...I can see the lecturing part, but I may not be bored all the times, depends on the topic.

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DHagar
DHagar
8/1/2016 1:19:54 PM
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Re: Verizon's Ag IoT
@JohnBarnes, thanks for that fascinating review of Ag!  Totally makes sense and explains the evolutionary trends. 

Our farms have been becoming highly productive and the jobs have been shrinking, so it is generally becoming more industrialized - for better or worse - but it does keep a high level of food production and at costs that are affordable; making it highly competitive in the world market.

True on the Ag jobs, but they are declining anyway, and if the farms went out of business there would be no jobs.  Possibly more jobs may be developed, even though there will be fewer.  Possible new jobs can be managing the machinery, including repairs, and hopefully, data-driven jobs.

Progress is never easy!  We need to learn how to adapt and optimize!

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DHagar
DHagar
8/1/2016 1:24:32 PM
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Re: Verizon's Ag IoT
@ms.akkineni, thanks.  And to your points, I fully agree:

- Profit margins - for those who make the farming process an effective production system, there can be good profits.  It no longer rewards anyone who just wants to farm.  Like anything else, it has to be effective.

- JohnBarnes - overview of the system - agreed - "understanding" the evolutionary changes and what makes the system work helps to make sense.  Again, information and knowledge makes things better!

Great points, ms.akkineni, as always.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
8/1/2016 2:28:41 PM
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Re: Verizon's Ag IoT
Paraphrasing Faulkner, "Progress is never easy. Much of the time it's not even progress."

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DHagar
DHagar
8/1/2016 3:55:33 PM
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Re: Verizon's Ag IoT
@JohnBarnes, I like that - very true.  It is just activity, which may be forward, sideways, or even backwards!

I was thinking, you should write a book on the Ag Industry and the evolution that has taken place.  I think, with your skills in painting the picture, it could be a best seller!

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batye
batye
8/1/2016 6:53:03 PM
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Re: Verizon's Ag IoT
@DHagar yes, I could not agree more, and please do - Ad evolution is very interesting process... - how I see it :) 

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DHagar
DHagar
8/1/2016 7:56:49 PM
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Re: Verizon's Ag IoT
@batye, there we go - That's two sales at least!  Thanks - I am with you.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
8/1/2016 10:41:40 PM
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Re: Verizon's Ag IoT
Skipping over the flattery (which I am nonetheless cherishing and will get you everywhere), I think the potential for IoT in agriculture is astonishing. Networked robots tending crops would basically be like extremely diligent peasants who didn't sleep or eat.  You could literally water and weed on an individual basis, kill harmful bugs by plucking them off and squishing them (or throwing them into feeding areas for the birds) so that no pesticides were needed, maybe even inject soil nutrients on a plant-by-plant basis. Harvest everything when it's just ripe, bring in samples of every diseased plant the moment a blight shows up, compost all the waste. 

And it's a natural environment for solar and wind power, too. (Or so I'm told. I side with Fran Leibowitz: the outdoors is "that unpleasant area with harsh lighting between the cab and the restaurant.") 

Kinda hard to make that exciting in fiction, though, I have to admit.  But the world already produces almost enough food, and then wastes 25-35% of it by letting bugs get it, mistimed harvests, misallocated resources, spoilage in transit, etc. If you could get the world's big wide fields, currently given over to big ag,  to turn out food at the rate and variety that a Maryland or Breton truck farm -- or a family vegetable patch in the 3rd world -- does, you could pretty much end hunger in a generation. Even an old Luddite like me can appreciate that!

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