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DHagar
8/19/2016 2:03:38 PM
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Adi, incredible! Great research! This confirms what I believe we all recognize is taking place. This should be good for the opthamologists!
Ariella
8/19/2016 4:02:15 PM
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LOL @DHagar rather like eating candy is good for a dentist? Certain eye problems were linked directly to smart phone usage while lying down. See http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc1514294#t=article
DHagar
8/19/2016 4:27:11 PM
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@Ariella, exactly! Interesting info - thanks for sharing!
JohnBarnes
8/22/2016 7:17:31 AM
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ariella, DMHagar,
It's the biggest boon to the medical industry since high fructose corn syrup. Maybe since tobacco!
And to think some people don't believe in progress.
Ariella
8/22/2016 8:24:13 AM
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@JohnBarne Certainly some people find it as addictive as tobacco. I've even seen suggestions that smartphones are a replacement for cigarettes in giving people something to do with their hands.
pmassam
8/22/2016 10:05:41 AM
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@Ariella,
Yes, that was recognised as early as 2010 with the first 'rehab' emerging:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/children/7467200/Rehab-clinic-for-children-internet-and-technology-addicts-founded.html
I don't think you can or should stop the information flow. e.g. MIT recently put all their courses online to give greater access to courseware, but perhaps 'everything in moderation' should be more liberally applied here.
Ariella
8/22/2016 10:06:38 AM
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@pmassam I agree; it's pretty much always the wisest course.
faryl
8/23/2016 2:25:11 PM
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"Everything in moderation" seems like the only thing Americans seem to actually do in moderation. :-)
batye
8/22/2016 11:00:45 AM
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@Ariella I think this days many people get addicted to internet... - how I see it :(...
JohnBarnes
8/22/2016 8:52:54 PM
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Ariella,
And the "something to do with the hands" aspect is itself in part a product of media. When they were making Clueless, Amy Heckerling (writer/director) had become fascinated with how teenage girls in affluent S. Cali were constantly on the phone -- but those girls mostly just held it to their heads. She wanted the cell phones to be constantly emphasized (and didn't want a whole cast leaning sideways). So she asked Alicia Silverstone and the other girls to come up with and use a bunch of attention-getting cell-phone gestures. Within months of the movie's release, young women were doing those gestures on every continent except possibly Antarctica.
And all that will be obsolete in a short time, since they were doing it with flip phones.
faryl
8/23/2016 1:55:25 PM
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That's fascinating!
I love reading and get super-sucked into books once I get started (I read them cover-to-cover...unless some sort of real life commitment gets in the way of that!).
After recently binging on Neil Gaiman books on my kindle, I started getting migraines and found that even looking down at my phone to respond to quick texts were painful - I think I gave myself "texting neck" from reading!
I ended up buying these glasses that use mirrors so that people can watch TV lying down and using those to read with for a bit. (They really helped my neck, but they're pretty heavy & uncomfortable - then again, they were only $15!)
With more reports like this, maybe there will be a market for improving these types of technology. (It made me appreciate the idea of Google Glass, if only for ergonomics!)
freehe
8/27/2016 9:12:01 PM
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@Ariella, good point, thanks for the article.
faryl
8/23/2016 1:21:26 PM
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I remember a college professor suggesting we consider jobs related to things aging baby-boomers would need; opthamology was high on that list back then - and that was before PCs/internet/smart phones.
It's probably still not too late to invest in Lens Crafter! :)
DHagar
8/23/2016 1:27:18 PM
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@faryl, great investment tips! You are on it. I think those have promising returns for the future!
faryl
8/23/2016 2:29:28 PM
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Now if only I had the money to invest! ;-)
Ariella
8/23/2016 2:34:21 PM
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@faryl that reminds me of the days when parents would warn children not to sit too close to the TV because they would damage their eyes. But it seems it's not just the proximity but one's position that's a factor in the phone screen effect.
faryl
8/23/2016 2:52:03 PM
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And after all those years of being warned not to sit too close the TV, we all got jobs sitting 6 inches away from computer screens :)
Ariella
8/23/2016 3:31:24 PM
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@faryl life is just full or ironies, isn't it?
faryl
8/23/2016 6:01:42 PM
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It sure is!
I remember telling my typing teacher in high school that I had higher aspirations than a job which required me to have typing skills...not only was I a complete brat, I was completely wrong as well!
vnewman
8/23/2016 7:01:50 PM
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@faryl - your post made me laugh. I avoided typing class in high school, then also avoided the computer lab in college in the early 90s. I would write all of my papers by hand, then drive to a woman's house at 3am when I was done, put it inside her screen door, go to bed, then wake up before class and pick it up. Boy did that come back to bite me a few years later when the primary task in my first job was emailing back and forth with Hong Kong!
faryl
8/23/2016 9:18:05 PM
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LOL! I had a similar experience once I went to college, only without the typist to do it for me :)
(And now I hate having to hand-write anything!)
Ariella
8/24/2016 9:50:17 AM
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@faryl I much prefer typing to handwriting. It's much faster, neater, and easier to modify without starting from the beginning.
faryl
8/24/2016 11:01:48 AM
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I agree!
Handwriting never feels like it keeps up with what my brain wants to say (if that makes sense!)
Ariella
8/24/2016 11:06:16 AM
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@faryl I get you.
vnewman
8/24/2016 12:48:36 PM
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My handwriting has suffered a great deal since I spend most of my time typing. As the saying goes, practice makes perfect and I feel like my hand has forgotten a lot!!
faryl
8/24/2016 2:07:32 PM
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Mine too! It looks like I tried writing by holding a pen between my toes.
mpouraryan
8/24/2016 5:02:16 PM
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I have made a point of keeping up with a "written" notebook just to try and keep my penmanship--although my son reminds me I am getting worst by the day!! As for the "stat", for me it is more like 100% between my work at the Daily Outsider, research/engagement for my graduate work/etc. , it is quite higher--the only time, I suppose, is when I'm driving..and when my budget allows for a Tesla, that might change too!! :)
Got to laugh about it in the end..right!!?? :)
freehe
8/27/2016 9:18:30 PM
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Waking Hours
I knew back in college that working a computer can damage eyesight and cause vision problems but no one believed me. Know everyone realizes what I knew all along. They are wear glasses now or have trouble seeing.
I was proactive and got glasses but retired them in exchange for a rigorous vitamin regimen that has greatly improved my vision.
Computer users and mobile device users should invest in protective gear for desktop and laptop screens and mobile devices to protect their eyes. Some options are anti-glare screens, take a break every 60 minutes and rest your eyes, take vitamins that promote eye health and vision, computer reading glasses, flat panel LCD monitor, and Gunnars glasses.
This problem also impact TV viewers.
Here is an article to reduce eye strain
http://www.allaboutvision.com/cvs/irritated.htm
http://www.cnet.com/how-to/five-surefire-ways-to-reduce-computer-eyestrain/
vnewman
8/23/2016 7:02:46 PM
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Three words: Computer Vision Syndrome.
Pretty sure I have that now. I refuse to believe it is my aging eyes!
afwriter
8/19/2016 10:24:00 PM
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Guilty
How many of us are guilty of this? I know that I am guilty tenfold.
Adi
8/22/2016 7:04:26 AM
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@afwriter - it would seem that most of us are. For a lot of us, the majority of work hours are spent staring at a screen. But I think too many us also rely on screens for entertainment and personal communication.
faryl
8/23/2016 1:42:02 PM
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I'm sure I am.
Even if I'm not watching it, we always have the TV on as background noise, and even though I avoid my desktop (to avoid getting "sucked in" and lost my iPad :( , time spent texting, looking up info, checking messages, managing my to-do list, shopping, and even studying all require screen time of some sort.
I even use apps for scheduling yoga classes to attend and as meditation timers!
clrmoney
8/20/2016 11:01:14 AM
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Yes thats true because Almost all of us watch the televison computers and smart phones etc. in todays society because back then they didn't have all of this available.
vnewman
8/20/2016 10:59:17 PM
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I'm drawling such a parallel to this article and the show on CNN about the 1980s which aired last night. In it Mike Wallace ponders questions about Cable tv that could have also been applied to the Internet and our endless devices. Will it "invade our privacy, tranquilize our children, and remove us electronically from the flesh-and-blood world"? The answer seems clear
vnewman
8/20/2016 11:00:54 PM
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By the way this number seems on the Low side to me. I would've guessed it was more.
Ariella
8/21/2016 7:45:25 PM
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@vnewman True, many spend nearly all their waking hours looking at a screen. It's possible that the responses include people who spend next to no time in front of a screen, and that brings down the overall average.
dcawrey
8/22/2016 11:42:25 AM
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Only 45%? I'm sure there are many, many people who use screens much more than that. Only Pokemon Go has gotten them outside lately – surely there will be more apps like this that will compel people to use their screens outdoors.
Adi
8/22/2016 7:06:47 AM
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@vnewman Yes, I think cable TV probably did result in all those things. The web is likely building on that base, and taking it even further...:)
JohnBarnes
8/22/2016 7:24:22 AM
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vnewman,
You can find similar dire forecasts about broadcast radio back in the 1930s: fewer people would learn to play instruments, people were quitting clubs and not going to social venues and events because they wanted to stay home and listen to radio dramas, and the coming wave of radios in automobiles was going to distract drivers who would forget they were doing something dangerous that demanded their full attention in order to catch what happened next in the story.
vnewman
8/22/2016 4:56:24 PM
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@JohnBarnes - you make a great point. All new technologies seem to be the precursor to the doom of civilization (as we know it).
JohnBarnes
8/22/2016 8:37:17 PM
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Vnewman,
I've often said that the pointed stick was a great idea, fire was nice, and it's all been downhill from there.
The first public criticism of a "medium" in written Western history was the exchange between Solon (Archon of Athens) and Thespis (the probably mythical first actor). Solon pointed out that Thespis was developing techniques for appearing to be something or someone you were not -- i.e. a more skilled liar -- and the Greek account we have gives him the last word -- "if we tolerate this in the temple we will soon have it in all our business."
Everything we say about the lowest-common-denominator aspects of the pop culture market today was said by Beaumont and Fletcher in their hilarious Knight of the Burning Pestle (historical context: Fletcher probably collaborated with the young Shakespeare on The Two Noble Kinsmen, and surely saw most of Shakespeare's works in their first performances, before he penned his part of KBP, whose point is basically that audiences are stupid and theatre panders to them).
And Richard Sheridan brilliantly satirized the novel-obsessed young rich women of his day in The Rivals; Lydia Languish is every bit as devoted to her novels as any modern kid to a video or computer game.
Ariella
8/23/2016 8:28:29 AM
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<I've often said that the pointed stick was a great idea, fire was nice, and it's all been downhill from there.> You don't care for the wheel? @John Barnes
JohnBarnes
8/23/2016 2:29:11 PM
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Consider all the litter-bearers it disemploys.
JohnBarnes
8/22/2016 7:32:48 AM
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One flaw in method ...
Notice, though, that the study assumes everyone sleeps eight hours a night. In fact, that varies all over the place, with many people running on about 6.5 all the time.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/average-daily-nightly-sleep-country-world_n_3805886.html
Of course there are those who think that there's another relationship going on between the screen and the sleep:
xhttp://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/44815618/Sleep_patterns_electronic_media_exposure20160417-16100-8hpm1p.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ56TQJRTWSMTNPEA&Expires=1471869059&Signature=arHZh6q7vIdZn9WG2zkhZ68K7AI%3D&response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3DSleep_patterns_electronic_media_exposure.pdf
faryl
8/23/2016 2:42:34 PM
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Re: One flaw in method ...
I wonder how "screen time" is determined too. Is it literally looking at a screen, or do less visual type activities count too?
I use a sleep app to help me fall asleep at night (it's some Scottish guy doing guided meditations) and sometimes listen to podcasts to fall asleep to as well.
I also use my phone for tracking activity or nutrition goals, as a pomodoro timer, a pedometer, gps while driving (just the sound part) and taking photos/videos.
(I always think of "screen time" as visual, but it occurs to me that visually-impaired have screen time too)
elizabethv
8/28/2016 8:49:26 AM
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Interesting Data
To me the most interesting part of this data was the separation of social media time and smartphone time. I am just about only ever on social media through my smartphone. I use a computer at work and not much any time else. Of course, when I get home I have two toddlers who are drawn to the computer if I'm on it, and that makes trying to do anything on the computer just about impossible. So I really only use it once I'm home if I absolutely have to - like if I need to print something. It surprises me that people aren't using social media on their phones more.
I do agree that social media is going to change the amount of video watching via smartphones. Especially with Facebook Live being an ever-popular feature. I'm also a little curious about a likely surge in MLM. I think it was always a little popular between stay-at-home Mom's, but anymore, every Mom I think I know is involved in at least one MLM business, some are involved in multiple. And the ones that are really serious are all using Facebook Live. *eye rolls*
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