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clrmoney
clrmoney
9/6/2016 1:10:58 PM
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Apps Account for computers tablets and smartphones
Smartphones have about 50% of the apps in the digital world and I'm not surprised because we use smartphones everday for phone service and video etc.and desktop computers with 32 % which those 2 are the most.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
9/7/2016 9:56:34 AM
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Re: Apps Account for computers tablets and smartphones
People do love their apps, but my understanding is that only 3-4 are used most of the time. I think this is one of the reasons why companies got so interested in messaging because they know users would get hooked. That has worked, and it seems as though messaging is really the only apps that can grow in the future because of network effects. 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
9/30/2016 3:56:55 PM
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Re: Apps Account for computers tablets and smartphones
True, and I must say I enjoy my apps! But I totally see what you're saying. Messaging is really the only one that could keep evolving over time.

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afwriter
afwriter
9/6/2016 2:13:37 PM
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It's the Future
I have written many an article - dating all the way back to 6 years ago - predicting that apps will eventually make browsers obsolete.  It looks like my predictions are starting to come true. 

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Ariella
Ariella
9/6/2016 4:11:35 PM
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Re: It's the Future
@afwriter I'm not into apps myself, but I was surprised that my kids who are into their smartphones don't use apps as much as they could. One complained about the absence of the school shuttle. I asked, "Isn't there an app for it?" She admitted there was but said she hadn't bothered to dowload it.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
9/6/2016 4:34:43 PM
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Re: It's the Future
I think one of the limitations of apps is that there's a scarcity of storage for them for many devices. The lowest end iPhone has had "only 16GB" of storage for a while (though the next iPhone might bump that to 32GB), and some users need to decide which apps to keep and which to delete to make room for more photos or music or videos, etc... 

Apps are becoming more "web-based" by trying to stream more data and not require as much storage on devices. Messaging apps are deleting msgs and not storing them. There are more video-taking apps that nearly instantaneously upload the videos to the web, so they don't take up precious storage space on a phone... 

It might not be "laziness" for downloading apps -- as much as not having enough hardware storage. There aren't many smartphone makers that include expandable SD slots anymore!

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batye
batye
9/6/2016 4:44:53 PM
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Re: It's the Future
@mhhf1ve it getting a bit scarry as every app getting bigger and biger in size... as 16GB no longer good for anything so to say...

my restore partition is over 19 GB for Windows 10, The average file size of a 4K movie is estimated to be just 100GB

on my laptop 128gb SSD drive almost full after all Windows updates in less than 8 months...

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Adi
Adi
9/7/2016 5:30:04 AM
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Re: It's the Future
@batye - I think 4K is scary, for any network operator anyway. Anytime you have four times the resolution to deliver, that's going to be an issue. I think storage is probably secondary to that...maybe time to go back to cheaper local HDD?

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
9/7/2016 2:30:45 PM
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Re: It's the Future
> "The average file size of a 4K movie is estimated to be just 100GB."

Ugh. Don't get me started on 4K videos.. I can't fathom how anyone will really care that much about a resolution that might require 100GB of data for a single file.

But I suppose someday when wireless data caps are lifted, there might be more demand for 4K video and AR/VR headsets.... 

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batye
batye
9/7/2016 3:06:23 PM
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Re: It's the Future
@mhhf1ve for me 100GB is my monthly limit with cogeco :(....  my ISP...

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
9/7/2016 3:52:06 PM
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Re: It's the Future
Data caps for landline broadband is... sickening. But I suppose we'll start to see the same "unlimited" data offers from ISPs -- with the same sneaky "math cap" where you can't really get unlimited data when your speeds are limited (or throttled) to 6 Mbps.

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Adi
Adi
9/7/2016 5:26:01 AM
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Re: It's the Future
@mhhf1ve - given the trend towards apps-based usage won't that just drive more storage on the device and more streaming from the apps? I appreciate that won't happen instantaneously, and I also accept that the price of storage has a direct impact on price (the 128Gb 6S retails at about 800 pounds in the UK, well over $1,000 - not a joke). But over time, will this still be an issue?

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
9/7/2016 2:42:49 PM
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Re: It's the Future
> ".. given the trend towards apps-based usage won't that just drive more storage on the device and more streaming from the apps?"

I'm not so sure what the long-term trend will be for hardware. Way back when, hard drive storage was getting cheaper and cheaper, but now that solid state drives are the way to go for nearly any personal device -- storage seems to be a bit limiting now. Perhaps there will be another solid state storage tech breakthrough that will lift the limitations of solid state storage? Memristors? 

In the meantime, I think we may see the popularity of Chromebooks grow -- and cheap devices that have a browser app as the only app. Unless Google kills off ChromeOS by merging it with Android. 

Why doesn't the dream of thin clients ever quite seem to become a dominant computing paradigm.....? 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
9/6/2016 4:28:24 PM
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Re: It's the Future
> ".. apps will eventually make browsers obsolete .."

Hm. In the graph for this story, I find it interesting that the desktop pie isn't broken down into "web" and "app" usage. There was a brief time when people thought browsers were going to take over all computer usage, and arguably, it has come to fruition. Google Chromebooks are extremely popular -- and what do they run? A single browser app. So how does this data point fit into the predictions of apps making browsers obsolete?

I think people will use whatever tool seems more effective -- browser or app. Users don't care whether they're using the "web" or an "app" to get things done. If Google Docs can maintain a spreadsheet better than a (non-Office365) Excel file, then the "web" wins. If Excel continues its monopoly over spreadsheets, then maybe "apps" will win in the spreadsheet category. 

The distinction might not even make a difference in the near future -- when apps and browsers become more similar. The Facebook "app" is becoming more and more like a web browser.... 

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Adi
Adi
9/7/2016 5:27:36 AM
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Re: It's the Future
@mhhf1ve - Wouldn't the distinction be a custom browser for an individual app vs. a generalist browser for websites?

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
9/7/2016 2:35:22 PM
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Re: It's the Future
> "Wouldn't the distinction be a custom browser for an individual app vs. a generalist browser for websites?"

Except.. I'm thinking that "custom browsers" for an individual app may slowly creep into become a more general browser. Facebook isn't going to just want to provide an app-browser that can only do certain things, it will eventually want to do everything a general browser does (just wrapped in a facebook interface).

It's the WeChat strategy of getting users accustomed to just going to one app to do everything....  

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Michelle
Michelle
9/9/2016 2:39:05 PM
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Re: It's the Future
@af I remember many tech pundits proclaiming the same back in those days. Web developers assumed the future of mobile was the mobile-ready site, while others disagreed. Silos and paywalls were the future! 

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