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afwriter
afwriter
10/25/2016 1:42:04 PM
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It Only Takes One
It will only take one major security breach of an app with sensitive information for them to move security to the top of the priority list. 

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faryl
faryl
10/25/2016 10:08:39 PM
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Re: It Only Takes One
It seems like there should be an emphasis on running a suite of security tests as part of the QA process for each release.

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Carol Wilson
Carol Wilson
10/26/2016 8:55:51 AM
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Re: It Only Takes One
What happened to the notion of building security in from the ground up for new applications - that's what every chief security officer is talking about now. Is that pure fiction? 

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clrmoney
clrmoney
10/26/2016 10:30:57 AM
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Devops Lacking
I think that devops should get rid of some of their employers and gave more training so that it will be better for security in the long run.

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dmendyk
dmendyk
10/26/2016 11:36:24 AM
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Re: It Only Takes One
Security adds cost and complexity to the development process. That's antithetical to the whole DevOps concept. So from that perspective, it's easy to see why security is being placed on the back burner. But it's a bad idea.

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Carol Wilson
Carol Wilson
10/26/2016 12:29:12 PM
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Re: It Only Takes One
It's a terrible idea - penny-wise and pound-foolish, to use the old cliche. The cost of not building in security is much higher than the cost and time it takes to build it in from the ground up. 

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Michelle
Michelle
10/26/2016 2:02:07 PM
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Re: It Only Takes One
Agreed. I thought we were past this kind of development. I'm disappointed to learn teams are still developing without secrity in mind.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
10/26/2016 10:49:48 PM
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Re: It Only Takes One
Ultimately, the quicker and easier it is to do things with information, the quicker and easier it is to steal it -- make anything more portable and accessible and more of it is going to walk away. (That's why so many bits of tech stuff are in big locked plastic boxes at your local Wal-Mart or Target -- they're too easily carried and concealed in their "natural" state). So on one level, if you're going to have DevOps, you're going to have security problems, even if everyone is careful and systematic about security.

Which, as Carol very rightly points out, they won't be.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
10/27/2016 11:38:10 AM
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Features vs. Security
Indeed, most coders are feature oriented -- as opposed to security oriented.  (This is also one of the problems with open source -- that, contributor-wise it attracts way more feature creeps than security freaks.)

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
10/27/2016 11:39:48 AM
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Re: It Only Takes One
@John: So is that why the razors at the drug store are in locked boxes?  Or are they afraid of someone robbing them with at Mach-3-point?

(Of course, then why aren't the toenail clippers or lipsticks similarly locked up?)

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