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mhhf1ve
11/3/2016 7:32:20 PM
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Re: Hmm. not much overlap?
> "Even when they do something that appears altruistic, the powers that be are also concious of what they are going to get out of it..."
Exactly. Google/Alphabet has dropped its "do no evil" mantra.. and its commitment to open source is mostly to build up a community of coders who are loyal to Google's platforms -- which increase Google's mindshare/marketshare in the realms of AI and software development in general....
However, none of this is explicit, but I wish press releases would at least acknowledge the self-serving benefits...
Ariella
11/3/2016 7:21:01 PM
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Re: Hmm. not much overlap?
@mhhf1ve excellent point. As for this: <As I've often heard: nothing is truly altruistic> when it comes to businesses, I'd say it's true. Even when they do something that appears altruistic, the powers that be are also concious of what they are going to get out of it -- a tax deduction, improved reputation, additional goodwill, and even higher rankings from companies like Bloomberg that look at ESG factors.
mhhf1ve
11/3/2016 6:58:15 PM
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Re: Hmm. not much overlap?
Hopefully, though, various open source projects can actually figure out a way to work together instead of just proclaiming that they are (while actually working independently and saying their work has "no overlap").
The underlying problem is that these open source projects have different goals (and sources of funding...), so it's difficult for them to truly work together and still accomplish what they're trying to do (which sometimes is.. to create a standard and community that is beneficial to a specific company).
As I've often heard: nothing is truly altruistic.
DHagar
11/3/2016 5:39:14 PM
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Re: Hmm. not much overlap?
@mhhf1ve - your assessment sounds realistic. In today's environment even if you are willing to collaborate each entity has typically built their own design - so that when you go to align there are natural disconnects - and that is when we want to collaborate.
Your point may be accurate, when we don't truly want to collaborate we can just proclaim that we are - with full knowledge that everyone is operating in their own space. Unless you truly work through the issues you can't know where the barriers are and then make the choices that will really align with open source.
mhhf1ve
11/3/2016 2:40:41 PM
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Hmm. not much overlap?
> "...the various entities learned that there wasn't that much overlap between the open source communities, and that most of them were actually complementary..."
Hmm. But what happened to the work that is actually in direct competition? Does that not count towards "overlap"? Or are people saying that there is no competition at all between these projects and overlap is non-existent.. and everyone can just complement and cooperate with each other...? Hmm. Sounds more like no one really wants to work together, reading between the lines.
DHagar
11/3/2016 1:42:01 PM
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Re: Standard of standards
@Mike, sounds like an opportunity for new advances. I fully agree with the level of progress being tied to cooperation - that is one of the big roadblocks to new alliances. It breaks down when players try to exert control (ie standards) as opposed to building information/knowledge and new platforms from which to solve common problems. An entirely new way of operating.
DHagar
11/3/2016 1:36:52 PM
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Re: Standard of standards
@Adi, Very true - but at least they will have a common starting point. Each step will be an opportunity to advance - and it is a building process.
clrmoney
11/3/2016 10:48:32 AM
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Open sources unites with others
This is great for Open Source to unite like ONOS Open daylight etc. so lets see how it turns out.
Re: Standard of standards
I agree Adi and Deborah. This does seem like a no-brainer. And it should be able to move forward more quickly than the standards bodies, and adapt going forward. It all comes down to the level of cooperation.
Adi
11/3/2016 7:08:13 AM
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Standard of standards
This sounds like such a good idea that it's surprising it hasn't been done before, by other industry groups. Especially if these are largely complementary, as they say. I suspect there will be challenges once they start getting into the details of the process.
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