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clrmoney
clrmoney
12/5/2016 10:54:24 AM
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Virtual not clear enough foy you
I don't know what they don't understand because almost eveything is now doing virtual maybe it's just that the older generation is used to in person and face to face things.

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batye
batye
12/5/2016 4:18:47 PM
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Re: Virtual not clear enough foy you
@clrmoney  same in Canada older generation trying to avoid dealing with technology... even ATM's in the banks... -what I see it :)

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afwriter
afwriter
12/5/2016 10:58:58 AM
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Future or Fad?
There is a nagging part of me that still feels like VR and 360 video will pass llike other fads, but I also think that like the article states, the future is unclear.  These medias will walk a tightrope until one of two entities can show a "need" for them instead of just an interest in a new technology. 

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batye
batye
12/5/2016 4:20:18 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
@afwriter as with any technology there is always hype and show... but after dust settles and we will see if consumers buy into it or not... only then we will know...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
12/31/2016 4:46:47 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
Very true. People are always excited when something new and different is presented. But we'll see how it takes to the people and if it will be something that will last..

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batye
batye
1/1/2017 6:20:48 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
@dlr5288 also on the other hand is not easy to ride this wave and keep it as many people do have short attention span...  and to make it last or keep it going - not easy... not easy at all....

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dlr5288
dlr5288
1/31/2017 2:51:17 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
Yeah I think it's important to first grab their interest and then make it into something that was better than the last time for them. Keep them wanting to come back to it.

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batye
batye
2/1/2017 2:13:00 AM
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Re: Future or Fad?
@dlr5288 Nintendo trying to this way with new system while trying to keep promoting new upgraded 3DS

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dlr5288
dlr5288
2/28/2017 2:09:43 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
I've never been a huge Nintendo fan, but they definitely have a good tactic when it comes to their consumers wanting more.

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batye
batye
3/2/2017 12:53:07 AM
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Re: Future or Fad?
@dlr5288 it does create demand for the old classic games/system and my retailers now put category retro gaming  like - http://www.thesource.ca/en-ca/gaming/retro-gaming/c/scc-8-11 and http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/category/retro-game-consoles/32287.aspx?path=d537c09e6097186e6017d10f87865d3cen01 but most of the time it half baked products - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M3MXULZ/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A10F2LH4RYXQAG - mostly negative review as product is very bad quality...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/30/2017 10:59:43 AM
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Re: Future or Fad?
Thanks for posting these! Very interesting. Yeah see that's the difference between taking a little longer and putting out a great product then just pushing a product out the door quickly.

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batye
batye
4/2/2017 3:15:59 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
@dlr5288 the sad reality not only small players on the market do this... but also big global players do the same like WV car maker and Samsung... it like everyones care only todays bottom line - forgeting where is a day after...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
4/27/2017 2:09:00 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
Yeah I can see why they want to push a product out as quickly as possible, but it definitely has to be the right time for the product to be seen and used.

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batye
batye
5/2/2017 4:13:55 AM
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Re: Future or Fad?
@dlr5288 now instead of the continue making good product what everyone wants Nintendo classic mini... - Nintedo kills it... but hints to everyone soon we gonna see Super Nintendo mini... - go figure...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
5/30/2017 2:58:55 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
Yeah it's crazy! In my opinion, you should perfect the prior technology before you put out a new one...

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batye
batye
6/4/2017 7:30:31 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
@dlr5288 yes, in ideal world, but in reality Co. only care for bottom line now and today... sad very sad...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
6/28/2017 12:23:20 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
True. They're trying to rush things out to meet an expectation of the company.

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batye
batye
7/3/2017 2:43:01 AM
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Re: Future or Fad?
@dlr5288  this days everyone trying to create hype and try to sell it and cash on it... everything looks good on paper... but real life it other story... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
7/31/2017 1:34:18 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
Exactly! And it's wrong to hype up a crowd of people and then let them completely down!

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batye
batye
8/4/2017 11:08:15 AM
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Re: Future or Fad?
@dlr5288  yes, you are right, but I did see it - it happens many time but after consumers do stop trusting Co... lost sales at the end... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
8/30/2017 12:10:06 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
Companies should realize this. Once a consumer no longer trust you, they're going to run!

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batye
batye
9/3/2017 6:01:13 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
@dlr5288  many gaming Co. create bad product hoping customers will accept it at the end Co. just gone... as consumers vote with they money... and no longer willing to give second chance if they got burn once...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
9/28/2017 10:34:20 AM
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Re: Future or Fad?
I definitely agree. Most of the time products are just being rushed out when the companies know they can be better..

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batye
batye
10/2/2017 3:20:21 AM
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Re: Future or Fad?
@dlr5288 yes  as for example even with rush of Snes classic on the market some Co. drop new controller to the market it for the Snes classic hoping to cash on the hype but at the end:"

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dlr5288
dlr5288
10/30/2017 11:48:52 AM
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Re: Future or Fad?
Thanks for the info! Yeah that’s crazy to push a product like that...

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Michelle
Michelle
12/8/2016 2:28:34 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
@afwriter I think they'll soon be considered a fad, then fade into the distance. I wasn't sure about early smartphones so I'm probably very wrong

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/7/2016 10:39:50 PM
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They're bucking 400 years of visual performance history, that's why.
Beginning with the Teatro Farnese (completed in 1618) and ever since, European performance has been grounded in controlling the spectator's point of view --

•proscenium arches, which made all the audience look atthe show from one side (instead of surrounding a thrust stage or a center playing area)

•painted perspective scenery, which only looked right if you were in a fairly small (and expensive) part of the house

•controlled lighting so that you could light only the parts you wanted the audience to watch

•development of the job of  the director's bag of tricks usually called mise-en-scene, to guide the audience to look where they were supposed to

and of course finally

•the motion picture camera, so that you have no option of seeing anything outside that point of view.

aided and abetted by

•the whole huge suite of editing tools and the tricks that start with Porter, Eisenstein, etc. and continue down to the present day.

Controlling viewpoint has been what narrative performance was all about since Shakespeare was barely cold in his grave. The fundamental ideology is that of the old Outer Limits television series:

There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image; make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to the outer limits.

An esthetic for 360 degree VR is going to have to scrap or drastically reintepret the whole notion of that control.  Suddenly, as for Aeschylus or Shakespeare, or in the medieval mystery plays, we make an image and the audience looks where it damned well pleases. Undoing 400 years of an esthetic is not going to happen overnight!

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srufolo1
srufolo1
12/8/2016 4:42:15 PM
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Visual Performance History
@johnbarnes Your historic approach to the way an audience views things and comparing it to virtual video of today is truly enlightening and informative. It made me want to learn more about theatre way back then.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/8/2016 9:27:09 PM
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Re: Visual Performance History
All those years teaching theatre history and I finally found someone who didn't respond with "But why do I need to know this to play a rookie cop?"

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srufolo1
srufolo1
12/8/2016 4:37:58 PM
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Virtual Video
Can't understand what the apprehension would be concerning virtual video. I think it has a lot of merit. Using it at an event and keeping your audience engaged rather than slumping into a coma could be one bright spot. It could be maybe more dollars must be spent on it. Money is always an issue.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
12/30/2016 2:04:08 PM
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Re: Virtual Video
Yes true, money is a huge factor. But I agree with what you said that it would be worth it! Being able to keep a big audience attention instead of them sitting there bored...

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batye
batye
1/1/2017 6:18:46 PM
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Re: Virtual Video
@dlr5288 could not agree more, in my opinion you must excite people and engage them with brining warm feeling of childhood memory... in my mind best example would be Nintendo... using Nintendo Mini as stepping platform to Nintendo Switch™  same way rule apply as it better to keep big audience attention if you play it right... follow Nintendo's way... I could be wrong and what love to hear what other think about it and have to say... - please share???

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dlr5288
dlr5288
1/31/2017 2:49:43 PM
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Re: Virtual Video
No I agree with you. I think, especially with older people, being able to bring back a childhood memory of a time where maybe things were easier and more innocent is an excellent way to grab people's attention.

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batye
batye
2/1/2017 2:06:18 AM
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Re: Virtual Video
@dlr5288 thank you as I'm in the same boat, trying to get Famicom  replica from China but could work on North American TV... not an easy find...  as I would love to play old games... on Famicom

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dlr5288
dlr5288
2/28/2017 2:08:43 PM
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Re: Virtual Video
Yeah I think it's awesome! If you're able to grab people's attention by bringing them back to their favorite times, I think that's great!

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batye
batye
3/2/2017 12:48:39 AM
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Re: Virtual Video
@dlr5288 yes and no as many customers could not get nintendo mini - http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/02/tatsumi_kimishima_apologises_for_nes_mini_shortages_cites_delays_procuring_parts ... and it could tarnish Nintendo image...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/30/2017 10:58:45 AM
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Re: Virtual Video
Ah I see. Yeah I'm not a Nintendo fan so I'm not up with their sales or lack there of. Not putting enough product out definitely hurts the company.

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batye
batye
4/2/2017 3:12:21 PM
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Re: Virtual Video
@dlr5288 as the end result I see in my city and online globaly people started dislike Nintendo as the end result.. as you could wait for only soo long... :(

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dlr5288
dlr5288
4/27/2017 2:07:57 PM
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Re: Virtual Video
That's such a shame though! I feel like they can put out such good devices and new advancements in games, but true. People won't wait for too long..

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batye
batye
5/2/2017 4:10:59 AM
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Re: Virtual Video
@dlr5288 how I see it Co. keep forgeting to take in the account human nature... plus this days we have new generation of consumers - with idea of instant gratification...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
5/30/2017 2:55:47 PM
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Re: Virtual Video
Very true. I feel like younger people want things now now now! It's all with the changing of times I guess.

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batye
batye
6/4/2017 7:27:51 PM
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Re: Virtual Video
@dlr5288 yes, but youth keep forgeting price they gonna pay at the end for instant gratification mentality...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
6/28/2017 12:22:26 PM
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Re: Virtual Video
Very true! The quickest way is definitely not always the best.

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batye
batye
7/3/2017 2:41:11 AM
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Re: Virtual Video
@dlr5288  thank you, but it create end result - failure... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
7/31/2017 1:29:10 PM
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Re: Virtual Video
Exactly! You just can't move super fast when things take time! Especially technology..

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batye
batye
8/4/2017 11:06:00 AM
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Re: Virtual Video
@dlr5288  as with the way thing do playout with technology you never know... until you see it at the end..

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dlr5288
dlr5288
8/30/2017 12:09:30 PM
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Re: Virtual Video
Technology takes time to perfect. I understand keeping up with the times, but making something great does take more time.

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batye
batye
9/3/2017 5:57:44 PM
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Re: Virtual Video
@dlr5288 yes, but it don't have to be super great, just good usable/working and easy to use... simple is a key... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
9/28/2017 10:33:29 AM
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Re: Virtual Video
Good point. Something good enough for what the consumers are paying for!

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batye
batye
10/2/2017 3:15:00 AM
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Re: Virtual Video
@dlr5288 yes, but I do hope everything will change at the end towards better way... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
10/30/2017 11:48:11 AM
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Re: Virtual Video
I agree. And I do think eventually the wrinkles will be straightened out.

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