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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/15/2016 10:35:23 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
> "I don't think we will ever be solely autonomous (ie Google cars)..."

I'm not that pessimistic. I think there will be certain locations that will be completely autonomous. Maybe we'll even have designated areas where only autonomous vehicles can go. Because the mix of human drivers and AI drivers could be more dangerous than separating them....

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srufolo1
srufolo1
12/15/2016 11:53:13 PM
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Autonomous Cars
Autonomous cars scare the heck out of me. When exactly is this supposed to happen? I can't imagine a mix of autonomous cars and people-driven cars on the Long Island Expressway on any given day. I think the sensors on the autonomous cars would "crash and burn" on that stretch of road. Also, concerning people checking their smartphones in the middle of the night, PHEW! I thought I was the only one. This must be a new disease. I guess it gives us all an excuse to suffer from insomnia. I think social media has created an addiction of sorts. I, for one, don't understand my compulsion to keep checking to see how man "likes" I've gotten on a post.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/16/2016 11:08:35 AM
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Re: Autonomous Cars
> "I can't imagine a mix of autonomous cars and people-driven cars on the Long Island Expressway on any given day."

If you've ever seen a Tesla on the LIE... then there's a chance a semi-autonomous car has shared the road with you. 

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srufolo1
srufolo1
12/16/2016 12:21:23 PM
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Re: Autonomous Cars
@mhhf1ve I'm not sure if I've seen a Tesla on the road. I'll pay attention next time. It's amazing how those cars are programmed to respond if someone short stops or whatever. I would still feel uncomfortable in one, but I don't have to worry because I wouldn't be able to afford an autonomous car anyway.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/16/2016 2:10:44 PM
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Re: Autonomous Cars
> "It's amazing how those cars are programmed to respond if someone stops short.."

Yes. I saw a Tesla video of its radar systems -- and they're apparently capable of detecting vehicles TWO cars ahead by bouncing EMF off other cars somehow? So the cars are looking farther down the road than just the car ahead.

Still, I haven't been in a (semi-)autonomous car yet. Maybe I won't be as optimistic when I see that it drives worse than a teenager with a fresh license..... 

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DHagar
DHagar
12/16/2016 5:44:17 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
@mhhf1ve - great question.  Actually there is an answer to this scenario.  You "connect" the data points to integrate "live" situational awareness that then can override the routine data feeds and instructions.  So you would create an "event management" capability to follow the instructions - and/or be connected with an override.

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DHagar
DHagar
12/16/2016 5:49:07 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
@mhhf1ve - actually that makes great sense.  You could switch to autonomous mode (like hybrids) in certain sections and/or under certain conditions. 

That sounds like a real plus on long highway stretches.

Great idea - hold onto that!

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/19/2016 5:12:52 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
> "Actually there is an answer to this scenario."

Hopefully, there is a way to avoid the unknown-unknown situations with AI -- because it's something we're going to have to address in several areas, not just in autnonmous cars. Once we hand over controls to "smart" machine learning algorithms, we still have to figure out what to do when those smart AI programs run into something no one's anticipated. The AI can't just drop the controls back into the hands of a human (or even a group of humans) without warning! 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/19/2016 5:16:12 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
> "...switch to autonomous mode (like hybrids) in certain sections and/or under certain conditions."

Ohio is already testing a designated section of road for autonmous trucks, and I'm sure there are other states looking into how to test autonomous truck shipping lanes, too.

https://www.dot.state.oh.us/news/Pages/SmartMobilityCorridor.aspx

I think we might get autonomous highways before Elon Musk can build any Hyperloop trains or dig any "boring" tunnels to avoid traffic.... 

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DHagar
DHagar
12/19/2016 7:48:45 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
@mhhf1ve - absolutely - I don't think people will be comfortable with an either/or with AI/Human Intelligence.  Like simple "cruise control" - I think the key to public comfort will be the ability to disengage from AI into override control by Human choice.  That operates on AI but leaves controls in the hands of humans.

 

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