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DHagar
DHagar
12/20/2016 9:00:44 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
@Ariella, good points!

Yes, I believe we still view Human Intelligence as superior to the AI - whether it is true or not.  In some cases it is and in others the consistency and pure calculations of AI offer better solutions - but we still like know we are in charge to make that final decision.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
12/20/2016 7:38:33 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
There is certainly a place for autonomous cars - especially in traffic! One of the most annoying things about cities, traffic is one reason why I would want a car to drive itself. 

That being said, I'd still be quite interested in having a car I can drive. The open road is still alluring to me...

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Ariella
Ariella
12/20/2016 6:10:57 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
<I don't think people will be comfortable with an either/or with AI/Human Intelligence. >

@DHagar I'm inclined to agree with you. They may like having the AI option but wouldn't want to suspend their own ability to control altogether.

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DHagar
DHagar
12/19/2016 7:52:32 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
@mhhf1ve - excellent example!  Good for Ohio - that's the way to build the solutions.

I am with you on the Hyperloop!  If we don't get a better model, Musk will create a "state of the future" solution!

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DHagar
DHagar
12/19/2016 7:48:45 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
@mhhf1ve - absolutely - I don't think people will be comfortable with an either/or with AI/Human Intelligence.  Like simple "cruise control" - I think the key to public comfort will be the ability to disengage from AI into override control by Human choice.  That operates on AI but leaves controls in the hands of humans.

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/19/2016 5:16:12 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
> "...switch to autonomous mode (like hybrids) in certain sections and/or under certain conditions."

Ohio is already testing a designated section of road for autonmous trucks, and I'm sure there are other states looking into how to test autonomous truck shipping lanes, too.

https://www.dot.state.oh.us/news/Pages/SmartMobilityCorridor.aspx

I think we might get autonomous highways before Elon Musk can build any Hyperloop trains or dig any "boring" tunnels to avoid traffic.... 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/19/2016 5:12:52 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
> "Actually there is an answer to this scenario."

Hopefully, there is a way to avoid the unknown-unknown situations with AI -- because it's something we're going to have to address in several areas, not just in autnonmous cars. Once we hand over controls to "smart" machine learning algorithms, we still have to figure out what to do when those smart AI programs run into something no one's anticipated. The AI can't just drop the controls back into the hands of a human (or even a group of humans) without warning! 

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DHagar
DHagar
12/16/2016 5:49:07 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
@mhhf1ve - actually that makes great sense.  You could switch to autonomous mode (like hybrids) in certain sections and/or under certain conditions. 

That sounds like a real plus on long highway stretches.

Great idea - hold onto that!

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DHagar
DHagar
12/16/2016 5:44:17 PM
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Re: Self driving cars..
@mhhf1ve - great question.  Actually there is an answer to this scenario.  You "connect" the data points to integrate "live" situational awareness that then can override the routine data feeds and instructions.  So you would create an "event management" capability to follow the instructions - and/or be connected with an override.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/16/2016 2:10:44 PM
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Re: Autonomous Cars
> "It's amazing how those cars are programmed to respond if someone stops short.."

Yes. I saw a Tesla video of its radar systems -- and they're apparently capable of detecting vehicles TWO cars ahead by bouncing EMF off other cars somehow? So the cars are looking farther down the road than just the car ahead.

Still, I haven't been in a (semi-)autonomous car yet. Maybe I won't be as optimistic when I see that it drives worse than a teenager with a fresh license..... 

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