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Ariella
12/15/2016 1:05:28 PM
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I wonder if this works as an adaption of IMAX filming. While some screens that claim to show IMAX films are merely larger than standard, some are set in a dome that really does surround you with the images.
mhhf1ve
12/15/2016 1:57:57 PM
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I remember a long time ago, Disneyworld had 360 movies in fairly large domed tents.. and I couldn't stand watching them because I'd get nauseated from the constant motion in my peripheral vision. I'm pretty sure I'm not the target market for 360 video, but I wonder what the audience will really value from a 360 video experience. It seems like the hype after Avatar in 3D.. it'll be a bit exciting for a while, but it might not catch on unless there's some really good content to sustain the tech beyond the novelty factor.
Ariella
12/15/2016 2:02:44 PM
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@mhhf1ve that's my take on 3D, too. I'm just surprised it's still going on with so many scenes so clearly thrown in specifically to show off the 3D effects. As for the 360, I suppose it can have a dizzying effect. I recall in planetarium shows that use domed screens with 360 views ther was sometimes a warning that you could feel that way with the advice to close your eyes for a while if it does happen. I don't experience adverse effects myself, but I suppose it can be slightly annoying to try to see all around all the time and wonder if you'll miss something to your back when you're watching what's in front. But on a TV screen taht should work differently.
mhhf1ve
12/15/2016 2:09:27 PM
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The dizzying effect (from my experience) isn't limited to VR goggles or wrap-around screens.. I can barely stand playing Halo on a TV screen because I'm not too good with the controls, so if I spin Master Chief around too much -- that's it for me, I'm dizzy.
I can't even watch some movies that try to make the "action" look more realistic by having the cameraman "run" with the camera instead of using a smooth rig. The "jumpy" home video technique makes me want to vomit after just a few minutes.
mpouraryan
12/27/2016 12:58:32 PM
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You are not alone @mhhf1ve in your assessment of the "true realities"--the newer generations, though, seem to embrace it--and this is where I think this is being geared. The question is one of sustainability more than anything else.
elizabethv
12/28/2016 9:13:24 AM
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@mhhf1ve - I guess mostly I'm confused. BBC Click is a television show. People are watching it on their televisions, not domed screens. So even if it is filmed in 360, how are they watching it the way the show intends? I can see certain shows or games as being successful in 360, but not a show like BBC Click. Though I have to applaud them for their attempt at being at the forefront of technology.
dlr5288
12/30/2016 1:53:00 PM
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I agree! I think the 360 experience is different and can be interesting and cool, but will people actually stick with it? I don't know.
elizabethv
12/31/2016 5:39:58 AM
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@dlr5288 - I can't see anyone sticking with it for any kind of a prolonged period of time. Sure it's cool as a novelty, but unless you actually created an entire show around the concept of being in 360, people won't continue to enjoy it for a long period of time. Similar to the episode of Grey's Anatomy that was a "musical" it was fun for an episode, but no one would watch 13 seasons of it....
dlr5288
12/31/2016 12:42:08 PM
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Yes very true and I completely agree! It is cool to enjoy for a bit of time, but I don't think it's useful or entertaining enough to last very long..
dlr5288
12/31/2016 4:23:07 PM
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Also I think it's probably more interesting for maybe older people just because younger people get less excited because they're so used to all this new technology. Like nothing phases them.
Ariella
1/9/2017 2:02:17 PM
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@dlr5288 so you're saying that in our times younger people are actually more jaded about technology than older people?
dlr5288
1/31/2017 3:02:39 PM
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I think sometimes it's hard for them to stay excited about new things. At the start younger people are pleased with a device, but after so long they want the next thing. Me and my younger sister have a six year difference and I can tell how different we are when it comes to technology.
Ariella
2/1/2017 8:57:26 AM
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@dlr5288 Interesting insight. From your experience you see that just six years difference can result in different perspectives on technology.
dlr5288
2/28/2017 2:11:26 PM
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I can definitely! I'm not going to say I don't use my phone or laptop, but my younger sister is completely engulfed in it. It's sometimes hard to have a conversation with her. It gets on my nerves..
Ariella
3/1/2017 10:06:56 AM
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@dlr5288. That just may be the difference between those who are categorized as Gen Z and those who just make the Millenial cut.
dlr5288
3/30/2017 10:42:30 AM
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Yeah I completely agree. There's some kind of generation gap. It could also just have to do with the kind of person she is also.
mhhf1ve
1/4/2017 7:00:51 PM
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360 video seems to be the same kind of fad as 3D TV and now curved TVs.. I think curved TVs are dying out now, and 3D TV is already dead (until the next Avatar movie comes out?).
But there has to be some kind of content that will get people to want to wear silly goggles on their heads instead of plopping down on a couch...
dlr5288
1/31/2017 3:03:58 PM
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Yeah I'm wondering the same thing. It's only a matter of time before people become uninterested with 360 video.
dcawrey
12/19/2016 7:53:19 PM
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I have tried some VR content, and I think people are going to want only bite sized amounts in the beginning. Will they want more over time? It's entirely possible, but it is a bit overwhelming to be in virtual reality for a long time. Maybe we'll all get used to it though...
clrmoney
12/15/2016 2:02:41 PM
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BBC 360 video
BBC is a popular channel on cable and I like some of the shows they have on and them having the 360 video just add more for what they have to offer.
afwriter
12/15/2016 10:43:59 PM
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BBC has truly been in the forefront of programming for years and if anyone is going to legitimize 360 degree its the BBC.
mhhf1ve
12/15/2016 2:04:34 PM
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360 Video as a game?
I suppose if 360 video content could be made into a semi-interactive game.. like a choose-your-own-adventure book of sorts, then it could extend its novelty. I could see someone adapting Realm Pictures' "real life" first person shooter to 360 video...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p747PrxmZJ4
JohnBarnes
12/21/2016 9:38:53 PM
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I think mhhf1ve has hit very close to the core issue here. The whole purpose of screened/broadcast "experience" is that someone structures it for us -- or at least as i said elsewhere that's the last 400 years or so of visual performance history. It's not at all clear to me that the present generation will want to suddenly plunge back into uncontrolled full vision in all directions; reading the viewpoint is part of how we know what the message says.
On the other hand, the first generation to have telephones had to be taught, as an interim method, to talk to the microphone as if it were a person, i.e. hold the receiver to your ear, point your face at the funnel, and pretend the funnel is the person you are talking to. Within a generation or two everyone managed to get the hang of talking "through" the phone.
What is the VR equivalent of "talking through the phone", I wonder? How long before we figure it out? (Not long, I bet -- we're an adaptable buncha monkeys).
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