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DHagar
12/15/2016 4:46:30 PM
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Re: Verizon's Cold Feet
@Mike incredible! This truly is a 1-2 punch. There is no way that Yahoo's value could remain the same as when they entered into this deal. Verizon would actually now be negligent if it did not negotiate a lower price - as well as preserve their assets against the certain lawsuits.
Any statements from Yahoo reported?
Yahoo!
My prediction: The deal with go through. This is the lawyers dickering with each other as VZ tries to get a better bargain. I suspect VZ cares more about the tech and user bases -- although this latest breach certainly potentially adds a lot to the liabilities column, so VZ is right to revisit the bargaining table.
At the end of the day, VZ bargained to buy Yahoo--not Microsoft. The security is going to be lacking compared to other large Silicon Valley tech companies.
Re: Verizon's Cold Feet
@DHagar: The Bloomberg breaking story seems to be based entirely on an anonymous source with inside information on the Verizon end of things but without much in the way of Yahoo stuff to offer.
Meanwhile, Yahoo told CNBC merely: "We are confident in Yahoo's value and we continue to work towards integration with Verizon." (link)
DHagar
12/15/2016 7:22:06 PM
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Re: Verizon's Cold Feet
@Joe, thanks for update - and great assessment. I would fully agree it is a "bargaining chip" - but a powerful one at that.
I share your expectation that it will go through - there is value to both parties - but I do think it will have a final "reduced" price - not necessarily a fire sale, but Verizon will be successful in reducing the cost to add value for their shareholders - they are in a good position to accomplish that.
mhhf1ve
12/15/2016 8:52:31 PM
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Re: Yahoo!
> "prediction: The deal with go through."
I agree that this deal will likely go through as well, but perhaps at a lower price than originally negotiated. However, the main assets that Verizon is acquiring is the ad tech and eyeballs to Yahoo.com, not email. Verizon could very well say on the day the deal closes that Yahoo email is finished and everyone with a Yahoo email address will be forwarded to an AOL email account. I suspect the security of Yahoo vs AOL email is about the same, and users won't notice much of a difference in any case.
mhhf1ve
12/15/2016 8:57:20 PM
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Fishy things still...
The thing that bothers me about the Yahoo email attacks is that Yahoo hasn't said much at all about what its users should do at this point. Sure, change your password. But if Yahoo wasn't in "we're just here until we get this deal to go through" mode, I'd expect much different behavior.
For example, if Gmail had discovered a similar attack, do you think Google would just tell everyone: "Hey, change your passwords. Yup. Nothing much else, tho. Just keep doing what you're doing."????
If Yahoo was still "in business" for itself, I'd expect a grand press release and campaign about how to protect yourself from phishing attacks and a new initiative to put an end to weak passwords, etc, etc.. But the silence from Yahoo is very telling....
afwriter
12/15/2016 11:07:53 PM
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Re: Yahoo!
At this point Yahoo should be willing to take any deal, their reputation is shot. I wonder what Verizon's take over would mean for Yahoo security.
srufolo1
12/15/2016 11:41:01 PM
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Yahoo!
More than 3 years later, Yahoo! is just uncovering a hack of this proportion? Billions of users' data was hacked, including 150,000 government employees. It seems that Yahoo! could care less that their customers' data has been sold, and it's scary to think what is being done with it and by whom. Verizon should try to distance itself from this deal or get Yahoo! to lower the price. Anyone with a Yahoo! account should not just merely change their password, but cancel it altogether.
clrmoney
12/16/2016 12:55:19 AM
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Verizon and yahoo deal on hold
I understand if Verizon wants to postpone their deal with Yahoo because of Email hacking. They could probably do the same to Verizon if they get involved now.So this needs to be taken care of in order to do business with them.
elizabethv
12/16/2016 2:21:19 AM
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Re: Fishy things still...
@mhhf1ve - I completely agree, doing nothing not only shows their intentions moving forward, but also a complete lack of concern for their users. I know it isn't quite the same, but other corporations after finding themselves hacked have also been offering a year of free credit monitoriing. I think at some point last year I had 3 different agencies monitoring my credit because of various hacks.
The weird thing is that I read in a different article, on a different site, that Verizon wasn't considering changing the merger just because of these hacks. Though I believe this far more than the mainstream media article I'd read. It also makes a lot more sense, Verizon is big and they can take a hit a lot better than Yahoo can, but why put yourself in that position if you don't have to? What does Verizon truly benefit from gaining Yahoo?
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