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mpouraryan
12/28/2016 4:57:42 PM
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Re: Huawei has plans for IOT
..and to "Piggyback" on what @JohnBarnes noted, here is an interesting insight for all to note:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/meet-the-80-people-who-are-as-rich-as-half-the-world/
Will we learn? Can we learn?
dcawrey
12/28/2016 4:26:04 PM
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Re: Huawei has plans for IOT
I think the biggest coordination that needs to happen in IoT is around security issues. If not, I fear we are going to continue to hear about security breaches that leverage IoT platforms to conduct attacks. I don't want to be right about this but it's a big problem.
JohnBarnes
12/28/2016 2:37:14 PM
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Re: Huawei has plans for IOT
afwriter et al.,
The arguments that things are okay because the bad boring jobs are being replaced by good happy jobs is really silly as soon as you look at the numbers. Pittsburgh used to make crude industrial steel and employed half a million unionized well paid workers doing it; today it makes slightly more tons of specialty steels than it did crude steels then, but employs fewer than 2000, most of them degreed tech people. When the Free Traitors allowed Boeing to move 30,000 skilled labor jobs to Asia in the early 90s, Al Gore pointed to the new jobs Seattle gained at Microsoft -- which has never employed as many as 4000 people.
It's a shuck and a fraud. For the last couple of generations progress has mostly served to concentrate wealth by hollowing out the middle of the income distribution.
Michelle
12/28/2016 2:26:48 PM
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@vnewman I hope the future includes more value-based jobs as machines take over repetitive tasks. It would be great to see more meaninful lower-level work. I'm not sure that's what we'll see, but it's nice to think about the possibility.
mpouraryan
12/28/2016 2:05:21 PM
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I am of the view as well that "boring" tasks have to be eventually give way to a more meaningful life--no doubt (and yes that includes frankly Driving!!!). The question is how? In the obsession we have to automate, we're missing the human element--and any who is at the forefront of transformation needs to think that thru.
vnewman
12/28/2016 1:09:32 PM
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Since it is typically the repetitive tasks that will be taken over by machines, I don't think that people will miss working those types jobs so long as there are value-based ones available to take their place.
mpouraryan
12/28/2016 11:25:13 AM
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I share your optimism--however, we have to see whether the thinking at the political level will help to sustain this as a new era arrives in Washington.
Michelle
12/28/2016 10:22:27 AM
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@afwriter This progression is great to see. The evolution of human work paired with machines is facinating. Sensor technology is rapidly advancing thanks to all the folks working on it.
afwriter
12/28/2016 12:57:04 AM
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@mpouraryan I think this is a natural progression that we have seen for ages. People may be being pushed out of one sector as technology advances, but there is always need for human work somewhere else. People aren't as necessary to the process of building cars any more, but there are more jobs in creating applications and sensors for smarter cars.
mpouraryan
12/27/2016 4:12:06 PM
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Re: Huawei has plans for IOT
What you noted was underscored by this column that got published in Project Syndicate last week, featured on China Daily--AND not given much credence in the US Media--it is frankly a tough read--As I know, I continue to lament how the "human factor" continues ot be discounted: https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/trump-economy-hurts-workers-by-joseph-e--stiglitz-2016-12
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