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clrmoney
12/30/2016 8:00:56 AM
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Transformation for 2017
In 2017, I'm interested in the skinny pay tv and UHD for videos that makes things easier and better so I want to see the progression of those ones.
Re: Transformation for 2017
I'll be curious to see how Netflix does outside of the US in 2017, including whether it will invest in original programming in some of the new markets/countries.
Michelle
12/30/2016 2:51:10 PM
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Re: Transformation for 2017
I wonder what other streaming services will do in 2017 -- original content is the new video content darling. Will the others move fast enough to keep up with Netflix?
dcawrey
12/30/2016 6:46:03 PM
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Re: Transformation for 2017
I'm guilty of doing some churning myself, as I rotate between video services. One mainstay I have is Amazon Prime Video, although that's because it's part of the Prime service.
Anyone else here rotate through some of these services like Sling, Netflix, etc?
srufolo1
12/30/2016 11:40:11 PM
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@dcawrey Rotating between video services makes sense. When you get tired of one, move onto the next to see what it offers and what suits you. I will confess I have yet to use Netflix. I may be the only one in the U.S. who hasn't.
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It surely is interesting to know that you never used Netflix so far. Only reason i say so is because it is one of the old ones which ahs been around for long time when there were not many choices in past.
srufolo1
12/31/2016 6:26:29 PM
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Re: Transformation for 2017
@ ms. akkineni It's not that surprising as I have never had much interest in television. My sister got me a $30 Netflix card so I guess I'll start a trial account.
Michelle
12/31/2016 6:33:20 PM
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Re: Transformation for 2017
Viewing outside the planned network schedule is a bit odd at first, but becomes perferable to commercial filled time slots. Also, Netflix is buying more and more original series. I hear some of these are really good (still no commercials).
Ariella
1/3/2017 10:13:10 AM
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Re: Transformation for 2017
@Michelle when you say that Netflix is buying more original series, do you mean that they have an exclusive on them -- like for their own series like "House of Cards." or that they are buying some series that are also available elsewhere.
Michelle
1/7/2017 1:22:04 PM
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Re: Transformation for 2017
@Ariella I mean that they purchase shows exclusively for Netflix viewing. They lead the way for other providers to do the same (as we've seen with Hulu, Amazon, & even Crackle originals).
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@srufolo1:
I am sure you wouldn't be disappointed with Netflix. I have a very good history with Netflix usage.
srufolo1
2/6/2017 5:39:34 PM
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Re: Transformation for 2017
@ms.akkineni After delving into Netflix, I now understand the concept of "linear" vs. "nonlinear" viewing. Seeing what you want when you want is certainly an attractive notion. Yet, what it lacks is you can't see sporting events, for instance, the Super Bowl yesterday. I had the wings, homemade bleu cheese dressing, homemade guacamole and chili but NO Super Bowl!
mhhf1ve
2/8/2017 7:27:42 PM
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> "... had the wings, homemade bleu cheese dressing, homemade guacamole and chili but NO Super Bowl!"
I suppose you don't get over-the-air TV then? I really wonder what the status of OTA TV is these days when so many people get basic cable TV and can't receive OTA TV broadcast. It used to be that if you were somewhat out of the range of OTA TV broadcast, you could still see a fuzzy picture and get audio... but with "all digital TV" -- it's much more binary -- you either get a clear picture, or you don't get a picture at all.
srufolo1
2/9/2017 10:45:34 AM
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@mhhf1ve After I gave up cable TV (or they gave me up), in my desperation I bought something called a ClearTV "antenna" for $15 at Kmart. If that's what you mean by OTA TV, then, yes, I have it ... all 7 channels. I do get a major network, just not the one that monopolizes sports (Fox). I get the channels that cable doesn't own, such as Decades (where I've been watching Dick Cavett reruns. Saw interesting interviews with the likes of Salvatore Dali and Myrna Loy. TV was actually intelligent back then), GetTV, and Channel 55 (Judge Judy!) Someday I'll get cable again. Sigh ...
mhhf1ve
2/9/2017 10:54:06 AM
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Re: Transformation for 2017
Aha. Yes OTA TV just isn't what it used to be. I previously was able to get a lot of channels when it was analog -- since I was willing to put up with a bit of a fuzzy picture. But after the "digital transition" for OTA TV, the channels I get are either HD clear -- or they flash blue screens with some highly pixelated graphics. It wasn't such a problem before cable companies also switched fully to digital and dumped the analog channels that weren't encrypted. Now no one can just plug a TV in and expect it to work -- they call it Progress!
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@srufolo1:
I made that assumption that you no longer have cable TV and are using an alternate option. But hey, we never know what is in store come next year by superbowl time. We will only sit tight to see what would come along the way....
srufolo1
2/23/2017 1:47:25 PM
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@ms.akkineni I can't understand why a network has to monopolize sports, but you are right. There could be major changes by next year, especially with all these mergers and acquisitions. The comfort food was delicious, though, and there were no New York teams in the SuperBowl, so we didn't miss it too much.
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Yes, I agree with your thoughts on sports network monopoly. Let's hope for some good changes in future.
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Seeing what you want when you want is certainly an attractive notion....
@srufolo1:
There you go, you got the point. And i am sure that's what is making Netflix a winner in that space.
srufolo1
2/23/2017 1:50:05 PM
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@ms.akkineni Perhaps the problem is, although you can view anything at anytime, are these shows REALLY what you want to see?
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@srufolo1:
Yeah, sometimes that could be a problem but may not be all the time. For me personally it has been working out in terms of settling down with something that me / my family like / agree to watch.
srufolo1
2/27/2017 10:43:31 AM
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Re: Transformation for 2017
@ms.akkineni I suppose, that is if an entire family even watches anything together anymore. Everyone seems to be doing their own thing on their device of choice. There is a good selection of shows out there. I guess you pick the provider that is streaming more of your favorites.
Michelle
2/27/2017 2:23:43 PM
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I hadn't thought of it much before, but you're probably right about a lack of family watching. I can imagine there are plenty of homes where everyone is very separate like that.
srufolo1
2/27/2017 4:22:56 PM
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Re: Transformation for 2017
@Michelle I remember the days that a family sat in front of the TV watching Disney on Sundays or Bonanza. What with non-linear viewing, and a ton of different devices to view on, I just don't see that happening anymore. But maybe in some households, if there is a favorite thing on Netflix, a family would assemble in the TV room and watch together on a weekend or something like that.
Michelle
2/28/2017 1:01:11 PM
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Mobile viewing has thrown off many family routines...the future is gonna be weird.
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@michelle:
There are even instances where it would end up as a mini war, in the process of not coming to an agreement with in the family.
srufolo1
2/28/2017 8:01:08 PM
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@ms.akkineni One good thing that has come of this is that no-one is battling for control of the TV remote control. Non-linear watching has eradicated that problem.
Michelle
2/28/2017 9:12:59 PM
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@ms.a heh, Family Survivor pre-show -- let's hope it doesn't come to that
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@michelle:
Well stated...
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@srufolo1:
You are completely right about it. It is pretty rare instance that whole family can agree to watch same show on TV. Even if that occurs everyone still has a second thing going on the side.
Re: Transformation for 2017
Yet, what it lacks is you can't see sporting events, for instance, the Super Bowl yesterday. I had the wings, homemade bleu cheese dressing, homemade guacamole and chili but NO Super Bowl!
@srufolo1:
Absolutely, that is a true lack. So sorry to hear about that missing piece ....which is the most fun thing that time.
elizabethv
12/31/2016 6:17:38 AM
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Re: Transformation for 2017
@dcawrey - I don't rotate per se, but I have and use Amazon, Netflix, Hulu and Sling. Though I'm not as impressed with Sling as I wanted to be. Ideally I was hoping I'd be able to watch new episodes of the Walking Dead with it, while offering my kids a chance to watch something other than the required daily viewings of Bubble Guppies and Paw Patrol. In the end, it just hasn't been worth it. I can only watch the Walking Dead after it's originally aired, and because you have to have the app downloaded, I can't watch it on my work computers. Which means I'm forced to watch it from my phone where I really have to pay attention to my data usage. My husband doesn't like it at all, for whatever grumpy reasons he might have. And with the commercials, I'm not as big a fan of having my kids watch it as I thought I'd be. If I were going to churn through any of the services I use, Sling would be it.
dcawrey
12/31/2016 1:21:02 PM
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Re: Transformation for 2017
@elizabethv There are some interesting services coming along, serving niche markets that could be real revenue generators.
One example is the 60 Minutes streaming service. It's 99 cents a month or $9.99 for the whole year and allows you to watch whichever segments you want to whenever. Also has access to the entire archive of segments. Seems like a good deal.
Michelle
12/31/2016 6:35:15 PM
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Re: Transformation for 2017
@dc I wasn't aware of this service -- it must be great for 60 Minutes super fans. 99 cents a month is quite a deal!
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Wow..99 cents a month, that is a stealer for folks that love the option. I would also think about the quality of the service though at that price.
dlr5288
1/31/2017 4:37:14 PM
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That's what I was thinking too. 99 cents is obviously a great price! However, I would rather have good quality and have to pay a little more over terrible quality and a super low price.
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@dlr5288:
I wouldn't disagree with you when you think about the quality. But i am sure pretty soon we may cross that barrier with quality challenge.
dlr5288
2/28/2017 3:39:36 PM
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Yes I see what you're saying. I can see us moving forward in the process and making good quality products fast.
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@dlr5288:
The process will ceratainly continue, we all will move on by tuning to whatever better becomes available. And that is the whole progression...
dlr5288
2/28/2017 6:01:47 PM
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I know for me when a new product comes out I wait a little bit before I decide to get it. I want to know if it's worth it or not..
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That is a good approach. You get a chance to wait and see how that product turns out to be. Sometimes there is a good chnace to know that product / update is not going to be any help and we prevent getting that installed.
dlr5288
2/28/2017 6:21:15 PM
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Especially new iPhones...most of the time there isn't any huge difference between the new one and the model before.
Michelle
12/31/2016 10:53:56 AM
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@dc We seem to be adding more (no rotating services). We're still far from paying as much as for cable, but the costs are adding up.
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@dcawrey:
Good to know about your preference with amazon prime.
I am settled with Netflix for so long now.
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Amazon Prime has its perks but I've found the UX far too confusing and labyrinthine to find/browse certain particularzed video content. (Of course, it's been a few years since I've looked.)
OTOH, Netflix is raising its prices again.
Maybe it's time to repair some cut cords. ;)
Michelle
12/31/2016 8:00:09 PM
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@Joe You're not missing much. Prime queue listings are still a mess. Playback isn't nearly as smooth as Netflix. Really, no service streams as efficiently as Netflix.
elizabethv
12/31/2016 6:19:47 AM
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Re: Transformation for 2017
@Mike - Original content geared towards other cultures would be really interesting? Would they play it safe and try to appeal to British audiences? Or take some risk and perhaps create a tele nova? I almost think I would want to watch whatever they came up with just to see how they did. I would hazard a guess that Netflix won't completely flop in other countries though, their name is too big here for people not to at least give it a chance elsewhere.
srufolo1
12/30/2016 11:53:53 PM
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Video Transformation
Are growth rates for Netflix running out of runcway or has it just become saturated? It seems to me I hear the word "Netflix" roll off more peoples' tongues than I used to, and it includes older users now, who can't get enough of such programs as "The Crown." Also, I am interested in what Facebook will do to expand video.
2017 Transformation
I actually can not wait for the year 2017. I know there is going to be some great video services available. I personally rotate through a few different video services as of right now. My rotation is between Netflix, Amazon Prime Video (I really love this one and I have it because I am a Prime member) and Hulu. What is your rotation? I know they are mentioning new and updated services for 2017, but I certainly hope they keep the older video services too.
Re: 2017 Transformation
At home our first choice always has been Netflix for very long time. We do rotate to different options for regional choices from time to time.
JohnBarnes
12/31/2016 2:26:25 AM
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Not in 2017, but soon ...
I'm wondering how soon some production companies will begin to "cord cut from the other end" -- i.e. start distributing direct one-on-one to consumers. Distributors, networks, cable channels and OTT services have long held the whip hand on production companies and often haven't used it kindly or wisely.
There's going to be a startup something like the coop publishers*, maybe a bit like United Artists (which is how the Hollywood stars broke the first studio system -- UA is just another corporation today but look up its origins for an interesting story), perhaps a bit like Dramatists Publishing (which was and is how many playwrights bypass Samuel French), maybe something like the web-radio/concert promoters. Not this year but soon, you'll probably be able to buy some video direct from producers as a routine thing. (And note that for all of the examples I cite, there was a long startup period when everyone agreed it would never work and wouldn't happen. And in every case -- it did.)
elizabethv
12/31/2016 6:22:33 AM
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@JohnBarnes - Is the future you are imagining kind of an offshoot of Neil Patrick Harris' creation of Dr. Horrible? Which is now on Netflix, but originially streamed indpendently. Would these people potentially be launching their own original series on a platform like YouTube? Or have their own? Just curious about what your thoughts are.
AT&T + TW
It's funny how pundits have widely different takes on the impact of Trump's election on the proposed AT&T/Time Warner deal. Some point to Trump's on-the-record antipathy for added regulations as a sign of hope for the megadeal -- completely ignoring what others have pointed to: that Trump has out-and-out said that he would work to block the deal (as well as block -- and possibly even work to undo -- others).
Of course, candidates say a lot of things during their campaigns that never come to fruition. We shall see.
elizabethv
1/11/2017 10:26:06 AM
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VR for Empathy
I saw this article and I just had to share:
Virtual Reality is being used to help people actually see what life is like in 3rd world countries, and countries that are experiencing turmoil and war. There is already a VR experience to allow people to see what is actually going on in Syria right now. This is an aspect of VR I never would have thought of but I truly think the opportunity is amazing. It's one thing to see and hear on TV that Iran is being bombed again, and quite another to see in VR just what that looks like and means for the people living there. The potentials are endless where this is concerned, the only possible problem is that given the people most interested in using this technology for this are charities, they may not have the funds to come up with all the technology needed to go that route.
https://www.wired.com/brandlab/2015/11/is-virtual-reality-the-ultimate-empathy-machine/
mhhf1ve
2/9/2017 10:56:45 AM
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Open set-top boxes are dead, too
Even before the FCC changed its leadership, the open rules for set top boxes were dying. But now they're completely six feet under --
And paved over.
Re: Transformation for 2017
@srufolo1:
Very good point, That is correct.
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