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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
1/30/2017 8:52:22 PM
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Speaking as a guy who has done a certain amount of local politics ....
The whole kiosk idea strikes me as a certain kind of dumb romanticism that outside consultants dependably bring into local politics.  (In fact it's an electronic version of the paper community bulletin boards that many cities continue to put up despite abundant evidence that people prefer to get basic civic information in almost every other conceivable way, and people who are out on the street are either on their way to something else -- in which case they don't particularly want to stop for the posted information -- or else are just hanging out -- in which case they are looking for something a lot more interesting than garbage pick up schedules, school board meeting times, etc.

This is coming up with a way to automate something that nobody (except city planning consultants) wants or uses in the first place.  Nice money in it for Verizon if they can get someone to fall for it, I guess.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
1/31/2017 8:10:29 AM
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Re: Speaking as a guy who has done a certain amount of local politics ....
@JB:

I was exactly thinking in similar lines about Kiosk. Kiosk is one thing that i wasn't overthrilled while reading the article. There are other things in the model mentioned which are more sensible and promissing. Bringing analytics is certainly a good thought.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
1/31/2017 2:28:10 PM
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Re: Speaking as a guy who has done a certain amount of local politics ....
Ms akkineni, I really think that too many city planning people's worldview has been permanently distorted by architects' concept drawings, which are often filled with people who are not going anywhere or doing anything in particular. The relation to what people might actually use a public space for gets totally lost. Very much the equivalent of software developers who start writing code as soon as they think of something it might be cool for the system to do, as opposed to what people need or want to do.

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Michelle
Michelle
1/31/2017 2:32:29 PM
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Re: Speaking as a guy who has done a certain amount of local politics ....
You speak the truth!! I work in such a building and with that software too. So many missteps were made in creating a physical space for actual people, not drawings. The same is true of some of the software. I can see what the point was supposed to be and how they might have gotten off track --- it's no less frustrating to use.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
1/31/2017 2:58:09 PM
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Re: Speaking as a guy who has done a certain amount of local politics ....
Adolphe Appia, one of the founders of modern scene design and the designer of most of Wagner's operas on their original productions, used to tell designers to design with their feet as well as their eyes, and would bring in actors and singers to walk around on mockups and prototypes before committing to a design. Some great software has been designed by watching actual workers work. This is a lot of the spirit behind devops, and behind "calculator" and "EDA" languages and packages like R and Tableau.

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Michelle
Michelle
1/31/2017 7:09:21 PM
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Re: Speaking as a guy who has done a certain amount of local politics ....
@John What a concept, design by watching real people do real work!! 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
1/31/2017 8:43:58 PM
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Re: Speaking as a guy who has done a certain amount of local politics ....
Michelle,

Well, it is a little bit of a threatening concept because it takes away the final argument of software engineers and their managers: "That's just how it works. Deal." So it really couldn't come along till about this point in history, because so much of the reward of software development in the first couple of generations was in that amazing feeling of being smarter, more needed, ultimately more powerful than anyone else. Bill Gates himself has admitted that control-alt-delete was a particularly silly bit of design -- but Microsoft could inflict it on literally billions of people with almost no trace of resistance. That was a genuinely heady feeling of power for a long time.

But as the machines themselves and the AIs take over, they don't need their egos stroked, and told to assist a widget maker, an intelligent machine doesn't ask "How can I improve on what I think a widget maker does, and thus place myself higher in the social hierarchy than a mere widget maker?" Instead, it just says, "Show me a lot of widgets being made."

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Michelle
Michelle
1/31/2017 9:50:41 PM
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Re: Speaking as a guy who has done a certain amount of local politics ....
@John Ahh, I failed to account for the legacy of software development. I forget we all lived with whatever was given in the way of software until now. 

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
1/31/2017 2:53:44 PM
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Re: Speaking as a guy who has done a certain amount of local politics ....
@JB:

What people need or want must be the key fact to always look for while planning any intiative in any field. We see good improving ternds in that area as we see customer experience is jumpig up to the list. This model of CX starting intial stage of any iniatiave will ensure that there will be less to no room for customers not in sync with what they expect vs what they see with delivery.

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clrmoney
clrmoney
1/30/2017 9:01:00 PM
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Smart communities on the go
They have advances technologies for the communities like the traffic and security so they will keep striving for better as time goes on.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
1/31/2017 8:07:43 AM
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Re: Smart communities on the go
@clrmoney:

Undoubtedly their adanced technology is impressive. In addition to that their underlying model and their move to acquire players to support the model is what is more attention grabbing.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
1/31/2017 7:56:06 AM
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Interesting
Very interesting and informative article. Lot of details outlined behind the initiative. Smart city development, communities and how different services are being evolved as smarp pillars..interesting read !!

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
1/31/2017 7:59:18 AM
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Shared Services Model
there's lighting; there's traffic; there's video surveillance; there's parking; there are kiosks; there are utility solutions; and, for transportation solutions, like telematics, we have a shared solution,....

This is shared services model for the Smart world that we are getting into. I am sure more thoughts and efforts are going to be invested and hope to see this getting better and better.


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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
1/31/2017 8:01:33 AM
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Re: Shared Services Model
And also their acquisitions speak a volume. Looking at every step of the acquisition....every single one is in support of their pillars listed in their shared service model. Good going...

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
1/31/2017 8:05:02 AM
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Sensity
That video node has advanced analytics where you can do parking, traffic management, or even video surveillance as well.

Sensity  - This acquisition seems very interesting. Having advanced analytics incorporated at lampstops is really key to analyze traffic patterns. This really will be a smart feature which will have practical value add.


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Itsmeshawn22
Itsmeshawn22
2/28/2017 10:53:50 PM
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Feldman: Verizon Constructs Smart Communities on Deals, New Tools
I agree with this because 1. The technology is so high tech these days its like untouchable. 2. The comunities are sucessful that they know how to handle it so it all works out just fine. So those are my two reson on how i agree and look at this article.

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