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 clrmoney
3/1/2017 3:55:55 PM User Rank Platinum 
Cut down on social media
I understand because I know people that be on Facebook a lot and in the morning for hours at a time. I don't think that it is okay or necessary to be on social media like that. People should find something more better to do with their time.
 Kelsey Ziser
3/1/2017 5:11:25 PM User Rank Author
Winds of Change
I have noticed that some individuals are posting more self-depricating images/remarks to poke fun at those utilizing social media, like *cough* Instagram, to portray themselves, their vacations, homes, experiences, etc. as "perfect." That constant striving to keep up digital appearances is exhausting and perhaps meaningless...or at least that's the message I got from Netflix's "Nosedive," the first epidsode of season 3 of Black Mirror.
 Michelle
3/4/2017 9:45:58 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Winds of Change
@Kelsey Do you think this means real life interaction sans devices will soon be in fashion? I think it would neat to see society shift more to in-person interactions.
 mpouraryan
3/5/2017 3:03:07 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Winds of Change
It is true, in essence, to assess this simple notion: Who will be left standing.
But there is a larger challenge underscored by this which I hope all here @ TT will review and comment on--a tough read: http://ideas.ted.com/the-rise-of-the-useless-class/ Kelsey Ziser
3/6/2017 8:49:27 AM User Rank Author
Re: Winds of Change
@Michelle It's hard to say but I think definitely possible. In the 90s everyone was trying to buy bigger homes, TVs, more stuff...now there's a minimalist movement where it's trendy to purge things, move into smaller homes -- less is more.
These are all changes to individuals' physical environments and priorities, but maybe that desire for physical minimalism flows over into the digital -- causing a desire to only post occasionally and only really meaningful comments and pictures to social media. But then again, what's considered "meaningful" is subjective.  Ariella
3/6/2017 10:03:39 AM User Rank Author
Re: Winds of Change
@Kelsey I think some people find downsizing appealing in theory but that very few do it in real life. Most people still seem to be on a hedonic treadmill, and purusit of the latest technology is one of the things that plays into that.
Ariella
3/6/2017 10:05:33 AM User Rank Author
Re: Winds of Change
@Michelle, I really don't see it going that way. You may have some people going to specialized settings in which devices are not allowed, say for a day or a weekend, but generally, on their own, most people are utterly connected. (I say this BTW as someone who can happily leave her phone at home for hours or even a whole day).
Ariella
3/7/2017 8:56:34 AM User Rank Author
Re: Winds of Change
@Michelle, I see the NYT just ran an interview with Adam Alter, the author of a book on the subject of screen addiction. from https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/science/technology-addiction-irresistible-by-adam-alter.html:
Q. What makes you think that people have become addicted to digital devices and social media? A. In the past, we thought of addiction as mostly related to chemical substances: heroin, cocaine, nicotine. Today, we have this phenomenon of behavioral addictions where, one tech industry leader told me, people are spending nearly three hours a day tethered to their cellphones. Where teenage boys sometimes spend weeks alone in their rooms playing video games. Where Snapchat will boast that its youthful users open their app more than 18 times a day. Behavioral addictions are really widespread now. A 2011 study suggested that 41 percent of us have at least one. That number is sure to have risen with the adoption of newer more addictive social networking platforms, tablets and smartphones.  mhhf1ve
3/8/2017 11:11:55 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Winds of Change
> "What makes you think that people have become addicted to digital devices and social media?"
I have to wonder, though, what defines an addiction vs just something humans require? For example, we all need sleep, but very few people are "addicted to sleep" (I'm sure there probably are a few outliers of people who may be..). People need social interactions, but what makes it "an addiciton" if the few outlets for social interaction is technology? I guess I'm saying, for example, astronauts communicate with their families on the ground -- because if they didn't they'd go crazy, but astronauts aren't "addicted" to their equipment. They literally need it to stay healthy and survive. Likewise, if some social teens were banned from social media -- would they not have a higher likelihood of becoming a unabomber or go a little nuts?  vnewman
3/8/2017 4:14:12 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Winds of Change
The hallmark of an addiction (according to the Psychological Bible the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fifth edition (DSM-5))is when the behavior interferes with your "normal" functioning in other domains of your life - work, interpersonal, and ahem, social.
I'd argue that abnormal has become the new normal in this regard. mhhf1ve
3/9/2017 1:33:38 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Winds of Change
> "I'd argue that abnormal has become the new normal in this regard."
I think that was my point. The line between social media addiction and normal behavior isn't well defined anymore.
vnewman
3/9/2017 1:29:55 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Winds of Change
Since the same type behavior had long been promoted or even required in the workplace (always being connected, always checking email, messages, phone, etc) it really comes as no surprise then that people behave the same way in their personal space as well.
People are burned out because they can't get a minute of peace when it is thrust upon them in no matter what the form - work duties or societal pressure to be "on."  srufolo1
3/1/2017 5:44:52 PM User Rank Platinum
About That Social Media Burnout
It's a sad state to think that anyone's relevance is based on the number of "streaks" one does on Snapchat, or whatever. Is this how far we've come as social creatures in this century? The Millennials need to realize that social media does not define who they are. But I can understand how addictive it is. I look at my iPhone throughout the night to check in on Facebook just to see how many likes I may have gotten on something. I try not to stress over this though.
 Joe Stanganelli
3/2/2017 4:35:14 AM User Rank Author
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@srufolo: It's less about self-definition and it's more about how Snapchat gamified the app. It's similar to peoples' addictions to Farmville (remember that?) back in the day.
(Meanwhile, I myself have an app game that is fun to play -- but if I go three days without taking a turn, I forfeit. Not typically an issue; I use it to keep my brain occupied for five minutes or so once a day, but sometimes I go a day or two without touching it. It doesn't make me feel the need to play it more, but there is a bummer to check it after a few days and find out I lost a game. Oh, well.) srufolo1
3/2/2017 12:01:54 PM User Rank Platinum
About That Social Media Burnout
I certainly remember FarmVille and my own addiction to it. If I went back to that app, my farm is probably overgrown and has been taken over by the bank! People were playing it at work and trying to keep the volume low because it had such a distinctive tune. I kind of get the stress, but I didn't take it that seriously.
Ariella
3/2/2017 12:53:47 PM User Rank Author
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@srulofo I never got into any of those games and ignored all FB invirtations to join. One of my kids does play a different kind of web-based game that she has been on for years. It doesn't need daily attention but fairly regular attention. One time she was gone from it too long and had to go back to the starting point.
srufolo1
3/2/2017 7:46:45 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@Ariella You certainly were one of the stronger people who could resist the invitations to play those games. The only one I ever got involved with was Farmville. I never liked the other ones like Candy Crush, or whatever it was called. As Joe Stanganelli pointed out, it could be a bummer to return after a few days' hiatus to see that you lost a game. That's what keeps people going back to them all the time. The one your kid plays doesn't sound as high stress.
mhhf1ve
3/3/2017 11:31:23 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
Is Farmville still going? I know there was a parody of Farmville that also got out of hand, and then the creator killed it off. And I think I just saw that Disney shut down its Penguin Club for kids in order to try to boost some other new kid game...
WoW is still going.. A lot of old MMORPGs are still on life support.... so even when there's burnout, there are still a few stragglers who can't stop. Ariella
3/4/2017 7:24:26 PM User Rank Author
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@mhhf1ve I don't really pay much attention to these games. I only recall years ago my kids enjoyed playing Millsberry. That got taken down, likely because in our self-regulating ad environmen tin the US, the company came under pressure for doing what appeared to be direct marketing to kids for sugary cereals.
mhhf1ve
3/6/2017 7:49:27 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
> "...years ago my kids enjoyed playing Millsberry."
I'd never heard of that game.. but I doubt it was killed off by ad regulations? There are So. Many. Ads. targeted at kids for sugary cereals -- how would an online game even move the needle even slightly? Ariella
3/6/2017 9:00:25 PM User Rank Author
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@mhhf1ve Here's the Wiki on it http://millsberry.wikia.com/wiki/Millsberry:
Millsberry was an advergame, created by General Mills in July 2004 as a marketing tool. It had shops, homes, an arcade, special events, and a weekly newspaper called the Millsberry Gazette, which told you the happenings in Millsberry. General Mills often used product placement on Millsberry. It was a web site mainly targeted towards elementary and middle school students, though it could be played by everyone. You were required to sign up to be able to fully and freely access Millsberry. It closed in 2010. Here's a blog post about it from a former player http://newlyrestarted.blogspot.com/2012/10/millsberry.html: Yes, they shut down Millsberry because General Mills' characters are making kids biased on wanting cereal, and making them ask their parents to buy it for them. Millsberry was basically nothing BUT Toucan Sam, Lucky Leprachan (I think I misspelled that), CooCoo the Cocoa Puffs Bird, Chef Cinnamon, etc. It sounds as if they're getting pulled. Hasn't that been the gimmick all along? Colorful character= kids want the cereal= parents buy the cereal for the kids. General Mills is blaming the characters, not the parents who don't decide for themselves whether or not to buy their kids the sugary cereal. Though General Mills never came out and said that's why they were shutting down the site (no official reason was really given), it seems that there was pressure of that sort at the time. See http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kellogg-wont-market-sugary-cereal-to-kids/: In the face of a lawsuit, cereal-maker Kellogg is clamping down on marketing sugary cereals and snacks to kids, reports CBS News consumer safety correspondent Nancy Cordes. It's a move food safety advocates hope will spread to the rest of the brands in the cereal aisle. Kellogg Co. said Thursday it will increase the nutritional value of the cereals and snacks targeted at children or stop marketing those products to them altogether The company said it won't promote foods in TV, radio, print or Web site ads that reach audiences at least half of whom are under age 12 unless a single serving of the product meets these standards:
Kellogg said it would reformulate products to meet these criteria or stop marketing them to children under 12 by the end of 2008. mhhf1ve
3/8/2017 11:06:10 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@Ariella - Wow. I guess "Big Cereal" really did have some marketing machine for kids. I wonder what it's been replaced with now... pre-roll ads on streaming youtube videos? I don't think that many kids watch saturday morning cartoons, if that time slot even exists still.
Ariella
3/8/2017 11:09:31 AM User Rank Author
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@mhhf1ve probably not, as that would be a bit too obvious. They still market sugary cereals to kids, though they have to do it in somewhat more subtle ways than by engaging them in games. They tend to rely on the packaging to some extent, as many young kids accompany their parents at the supermarket and clamor for the things with cartoon characters on them.
mhhf1ve
3/8/2017 11:14:09 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
I suppose that the margins on kids cereal are probably high enough that Big Cereal doesn't really need to do all that much marketing -- as long as kids see the boxes in the supermarket. So it's all just paying the grocery stores to put the kids cereal at the ends of the aisle and at kid-height.....
vnewman
3/7/2017 6:38:04 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
It seems especially nefarious of a company to have ads masquerading around as games when you frame it that way though, right?
Ariella
3/8/2017 11:18:06 AM User Rank Author
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@vnewman It really is a form of content marketing, and you could get away with for adults. It's only when the target market is a kid that you run some risk of opposition. It's not technically against the law here (though it might be in the EU and UK), as the US ad market is pretty much self-regulating, but they only get to be that way if they show themselves to adhere to standards that are generally agreed upon.
mhhf1ve
3/8/2017 2:01:52 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
I'm somewhat hazy on where the line is for "kid marketing" when I think all video games are basically ads for kids. Mario advertises for his own games and all other Nintendo games at the same time.. and now I've gotta look up to see if there's a Mario cereal....
Ariella
3/8/2017 4:15:33 PM User Rank Author
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@MHHF1VE you thought you were kidding, didn't you? There's a very low quality video of the commercial on YouTube that I found here.
http://www.mrbreakfast.com/cereal_detail.asp?id=254 From: Ralston Introduced in 1988 This short lived cereal contained both Super Mario Bros. cereal and Zelda Adventure cereal. The cereals were contained in two separate 7.5 ounce bags. Text on the front of the box read, "Fortified with 9 essential vitamins and minerals" and "two different natural and artificial flavors: Fruity & Berry". A 1989 magazine ad described it this way: Nintendo is for breakfast now. Nintendo is two cereals in one. Wow! Super Mario Bros. and Zelda too. Mix 'em, match 'em, crunch 'em, you just can't loose. Fruit-flavored Marios, Mushrooms and Goomas. Berry-flavored Links, Hearts and Shields. Nintendo is breakfast news! Nintendo Cereal System. If you can't beat 'em, eat 'em.  The back of one box read, "Jump on the chance to win a Nintendo Entertainment System Power Set!" Another set of boxes offered four Nintendo Power Cards on the back and encouraged cereal consumers to "collect all 12."  Known Premiums: Free Action Poster; free Nintendo sticker; send-away hologram t-shirt offer. Click here to see all cereals from Ralston. mhhf1ve
3/9/2017 1:31:56 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
Wow. Mario cereal existed. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised but I was sorta joking. I do, however, remember a PAC-man cereal, so it's not crazy to believe other games had their own cereals too.
Ariella
3/9/2017 9:00:34 AM User Rank Author
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@mhhf1ve speaking of Ninetendo, I just saw https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/03/08/nintendos-u-s-ceo-responds-to-our-biggest-gripes-with-the-switch/?utm_term=.5a8f5dd6abcf in which the CEO discusses plans for original content on Ninetendo's Switch,
mhhf1ve
3/9/2017 9:51:13 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
The Nintendo Switch certainly has a lot of expectations to fulfill. I'm not sure it will actually follow through, but it's an interesting direction.
 dlr5288
3/31/2017 2:05:59 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
Thanks for sharing! I'm not a huge gamer so I'm not up with what's new, but I do have friends who are into gaming and it's crazy how far Nintendo has come and how advanced they are today.
 dcawrey
3/4/2017 3:57:24 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
It's real fun to always see how great everyone is doing on social media all the time. This is one of the reasons why the founders of Snap were able to raise money, to prove a point that real-life social made more sense. Well, they seem to be doing alright, even though only a particular subset of people use Snapchat.
srufolo1
3/4/2017 5:40:53 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
I haven't jumped on the Snapchat bandwagon yet. Snap just had an IPO. It could be a wise investment.
Ariella
3/2/2017 9:10:23 AM User Rank Author
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@srufolo1 I share your feeling of dismay. Of course, we willingly let ourselves become addicted when we don't leave home without devices that can connect us to our next fix. That's why some people make the decision to detox. It's a real thing now. See http://www.popsugar.com/tech/How-Stay-Off-Your-Phone-35379919
srufolo1
3/2/2017 7:41:27 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@Ariella That "Master a Digital Detox Program", if the steps are followed, sounds like it can ease some of the stress these social media addicts face. I, for one, would love to just turn off my phone for a week. But the last time I did that my mother and other members of my family got frantic and my mother called the police to my home!!!
Ariella
3/2/2017 8:03:48 PM User Rank Author
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@srulogo Did the police actually come, or did she just tell you about it? Even when I have my phone with me, I don't always realize when it someone sends me a text. In some conditions, I won't even hear it ring -- even though I rarely switch it to silent.
srufolo1
3/2/2017 8:09:22 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@Ariella The police actually came and told me that my mother (who lives in Jersey and I live in Long Island) was worried about me and to call her. In this particular instance, I had actually lost the phone, but found it a few days later. I don't always hear my phone ring either. The problem is mainly that the button on the side turns the ringer off. I don't know how that happens since it takes a little bit of pressure to turn that little button up and down. So it appears the phone has become a personal tracking device, and when you do something out of the ordinary, people tend to worry (at least in my family). As much as I wish I could detox, I can't have the police at my door every time I do.
Ariella
3/3/2017 9:26:18 AM User Rank Author
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@srufolo1 Wow! I wonder if NYC police woud have bothered. When I called police on the Island myself to report my daughter's wallet being stolen and her cards having been used, they sent 3 guys over, not they actually did anything, though. As the wallet was taken on a train and the fraudulent charges put on in Queens, they said it wasn't their jurisdiction. But they didn't seem to mind coming over to write up a report.
srufolo1
3/4/2017 5:53:13 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: About That Social Media Burnout
@Ariella I doubt New York City police would have bothered to come to the person's home the way they did out here in Long Island. Again such are the dangers, at least for me, for not having my phone with me for a few days. How I wish I could disconnect from everything for a while.
Joe Stanganelli
3/2/2017 4:31:46 AM User Rank Author
News
FWIW, I feel like real news can be just as stressful as "fake news".
 batye
3/2/2017 9:30:18 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: News
@Joe Stanganelli I think this days real news becoming very strange as the way information get presented/delivered creating need to continue follow... with idea if you do not follow, you miss something important... just my two cents...
 afwriter
3/2/2017 11:28:42 PM User Rank Platinum
Politics
I think the continued political climate is adding to this as well. I know a number of friends who have quit social media because they just couldn't handle the barrage of political posts in their feed everyday.
 Itsmeshawn22
3/31/2017 8:44:01 PM User Rank Platinum
About That Social Media Burnout…
This article is very interesting because there is alot of trolling these days on social media. The most trolling i think is on video games these days exspecially call of duty. I also know there is alot of bullying on video games and social media. They even bully people on the game call of duty which i find its so immature of them to do that just let the kids play the game in peace.
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