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clrmoney
3/23/2017 10:54:49 AM
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Smartphones double usage
I 'm not really rhat surprised with smartphone penetration usage because we use it a lot now especially for mobile video. They also siad that it affected Youtube because viewers were watching more on mobile. I thought that would be a plus for them but I guess not.
Ariella
3/23/2017 12:00:45 PM
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<Mobile usage (including tablets) is now two hours and fifty-one minutes per day for US consumers over 18> Nearly three hours: that's quite a chunk of one's day. Would osme of that overlap with other usage, say, looking over the phone while watching TV or the like?
mpouraryan
3/26/2017 1:43:48 AM
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We should celebrate that transformation--not frown on it. I note this because, for instance, I have deployed my older iPAD to use as a second screen in my office using Duet--such "data" includes things that were not even possible--so I would not be too nervous--but celebrate--change is always healhy--right?
Ariella
3/23/2017 12:00:45 PM
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<Mobile usage (including tablets) is now two hours and fifty-one minutes per day for US consumers over 18> Nearly three hours: that's quite a chunk of one's day. Would osme of that overlap with other usage, say, looking over the phone while watching TV or the like?
Adi
3/24/2017 10:15:58 AM
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Ariella - very likely. Media "multitasking" is well-researched behavior, and a lot of the extra minutes that digital media seems to be adding to the day is because of it. Smartphones are the most likely to be used for multitasking. There's also activities like checking email while on public transport, or texting while walking down a busy street.That's basically adding hours to your day.
Ariella
3/24/2017 10:37:41 AM
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@Adi Indeed, it's rare to see someone waiting on a line or walking on the street who is not doing something on a phone today.
dcawrey
3/25/2017 3:25:18 PM
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There's only so many phones that can be sold by wireless providers and device makers...
I mean, I guess I could buy another phone. Given how bad battery life is on these things it might be a smart bet.
Ariella
3/25/2017 10:57:50 PM
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@dcawrey a backup phone for when the battery goes out? It's an idea, though, generally, it's suspected that when people keep more than one phone, they do so to keep secrets. Some kids have even figured out the trick of handing in one phone at schools that enforce rules of no phones on the premises while keeping another one hidden on them.
JohnBarnes
3/26/2017 12:53:53 AM
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Ariella, dcawrey,
If you're in a job where account management is a big part of it, you often have a company smart phone you have to take home with you (which you then usually forward to your own phone so you don't have to carry both if you're out for the evening). I've known people who had to carry four phones: their own personal, customer support/management, confidential one for the company attorneys and upper management, and a general sales-and-deals line. (This was for a senior big-deal broker in a large financial firm). THat way when (not if) the company got sued they could compartmentalize on what they turned over.
Never saw all four phones ring at the same time but figured it was bound to happen sometime .... as a sometime comedy writer I figured it would be something useful to see ...
Anyway, production of phones is now so quick and cheap that even if the whole country had to have four smartphones each, it would only take a year or two at most to equip everyone, and then you'd be right back to saturation.
elizabethv
3/25/2017 8:37:23 PM
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@Ariella - I existed before cellphones (as did most of us I'm sure) but I cannot for the life of me remember what any of us did in a line without a cellphone! Last Friday I had a nightmare-ish day at the doctor, where they thought I might have a blood clot in my lungs following my c-section the previous Friday. This required a number of tests, and they refused to let me leave due to the serious nature of the condition. Anyway, I ended up being there for over 6 hours, and my cellphone died, about 2 hours into the situation. It made the whole ordeal that much more miserable. Everyone around me was plugged into some kind of device, a few people multiple devices, and there I sat completely disconnected. The entire time I thought about how if it had been 20 years earlier, I would have been in the same situation, I tried to convince myself I would be okay without my phone. I was okay, but also extremely stressed out.
(I did not have a blood clot, and was, and am fine.)
Ariella
3/25/2017 11:00:46 PM
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@elizabethv Glad to hear that you were OK. You just had a c-section? I had one a very long time ago and wasn't told about a risk for clots. But nowadays I'm told even women with standard deliveries are given the shots that are meant to deter clotting. As for myself, I try to take books with me when going to a doctor's or dentist's office.
mpouraryan
3/25/2017 11:33:19 PM
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Hi there and Happy W-End!! :) First of, let me add my voice to note how much of a good news you shared about you being OK. I think I'm part of this generation as I have not "refreshed" my phones in almost three years and have made it a point of keeping my old iphone 3 as a backup--although I do admit I was on it quite a bit as I was working doing social media curation for my startup @DailyOutsider. I do make it a point of not taking my phone into family meetings or any meetings unless I have to, for instance, capture images (as I did last night). There is life beyond cell phones--I guess that's the message I am trying to humbly underscore.....
JohnBarnes
3/26/2017 1:10:40 AM
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Mike,
Hey, I'm still using my old iPhone 3 GS as my main phone. I thought I might have to finally give it up for a brief hour last week, till I found it had just slipped down behind the seat of my Model T.
mpouraryan
3/26/2017 1:45:13 AM
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Mine also works like a charm--a testament to the prowess of the Engineering that is at the heart of how such things sustain themselves!!!
afwriter
3/25/2017 10:28:46 PM
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I am guilty of this, I am often on my phone and computer at the same time and I am practically always on my phone while "watching" TV.
vnewman
3/27/2017 4:10:50 PM
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I get questioned about this all the time at home. My husband tells me to turn the TV off if I'm not "watching" it. I said "who sits down and just watches TV anymore?" I've come to treat the TV as another occupant of the house: Present, doing it's own thing, and every now and again I will give my full attention to it in between doing other things.
mpouraryan
3/25/2017 11:38:09 PM
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..and I would humbly add to what @Adi noted about how it is fundamental to our productivity. I would not be able to work on my startup and its' curation--along with the periodic things I do on Media (creation/updates for my Twenty20 App) was it not for my iPhone. It is a crucial link--but if we do in a smart and responsible way. What is bothersome is when one continues to see, for instance, folks on their phones driving and checking text messages--which I really don't understand.
dcawrey
3/23/2017 1:15:58 PM
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PCs are old news.
With mobile devices, people have so much more flexibility. This is why I think despite fits and starts wearables will eventually become popular. The smartphone as a form factor will eventually become outdated.
Adi
3/24/2017 10:17:09 AM
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dcawrey - the intersection of AR and wearables is interesting. I think AR will be an important driver for adoption of connected glasses.
elizabethv
3/25/2017 8:32:15 PM
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@dcawrey - Your thoughts on wearables is interesting. Though I kind of hope your prediction isn't accurate. I actually have no interest in wearables. Though I suppose it's just my opinion, and there are possibly a large number of people who agree with you. To me, wearables makes me too connected. Especially the idea of glasses. I already have an OCD "thing" about getting rid of all notifications on my phone the instant I know they are there. If I had a pair of glasses that flashed a notification in my field of vision the instant the notification popped up, good gravy my life would be over. I'd never accomplish anything.
JohnBarnes
3/25/2017 10:29:20 PM
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ElizabethV,
That has been a feature of technology since the dawn of technical change. I think it was Chesterton who said, somewhere in the 1910s or 1920s, that the telephone was like having a postman who rang your doorbell till you answered and then insisted that you read your mail before he would leave.
elizabethv
3/27/2017 2:50:13 PM
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@JohnBarnes - That is hilarious and I've never heard it before! But it's so true. Though it drives my husband nuts that I can't just leave the notifications be. Especially now that phones come with a light that flashes when you have any kind of notification. If the light on my phone is blue, I have to check to see what needs attending to. It's like having a 4th child.
mpouraryan
3/26/2017 1:41:56 AM
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So far, we're not there--yet. Wearables have to "stand on their own" and not be dependent. Look at what happened to Pebble....but what is fascinating is something like this which may be the "future" of wearables:
https://www.chooseblocks.com/discover/overview
JohnBarnes
3/25/2017 7:20:18 PM
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Funny thing about market saturation
It always takes a few institutions by surprise. If you think of resistance to a technology being on a bell curve, the early adopters are, say, three or four sigma in the direction of low resistance, and there are just a few of them, but as the tech matures, you hit that big bulge and suddenly you have a boom and a license to print money. Once you're out on the other end -- three or four sigma of high adoption resistance -- all that's left is the people who hate the tech and wouldn't take it for free.
But while you were filling that big central bulge, you built a huge production capacity to supply the apparently bottomless need. And now that very large capacity is trying to find customers in a tiny, highly resistant population.
Next step: price crash. Bet on it.
elizabethv
3/25/2017 8:27:52 PM
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Not surprising
Recently, my 70ish year old mother-in-law got her first smartphone. Because she had no choice. They went to the store to get her a new phone because her old flip phone had finally bit the dust. And the only phone they could offer for a replacement was a smartphone. Some kind of random Samsung I haven't heard of before, but it does all the same things my Samsung does. And while initially she swore she would only use the basic features of the phone, with time, she has started using more and more of the "smart" features. As for me, more often than not, I'd rather just use my phone (it's in my pocket, I don't have to go into our home office to use it, which inevitably attracts the attention of my children.) But I can't see ever actually getting rid of a desktop. I still need my desktop for multiple things (or why would I sit here with my 2-year-old on my lap, watching YouTube videos while I type this?) We've adapted to having our smartphones, there should be no question of that. But I can't see them completely replacing the full-functionality of the desktop for even most of us.
JohnBarnes
3/25/2017 10:04:35 PM
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ElizabethV,
But the "us" you are talking about is quite a select group -- journalists and writers with a big interest in the tech industry. We need our big honking powerful gadgets.
For people who just want to watch little bits of movies, listen to music, communicate with their friends, and get driving directions -- i.e. most people -- the phone can do it all.
mpouraryan
3/26/2017 1:39:12 AM
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The Phone is the "HUB"no doubt--and not just for those of us "Techies", "Journalists" et. al. We all should embrace--if we have not done so already--that it is part and parcel of our lives--whether we like it or not.
Ariella
3/25/2017 11:05:31 PM
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MThey went to the store to get her a new phone because her old flip phone had finally bit the dust. And the only phone they could offer for a replacement was a smartphone. > @elizabethV I have to say I'm surprised about that because not only are flipphones still available at retailers like BestBuy and Amazon (see https://www.amazon.com/ZTE-Z222-Unlocked-Phone-Camera/dp/B017TQBK6U) , but they are making a comeback of sorts. See http://blog.icracked.com/2015/03/18/flip-phone-comeback/
mpouraryan
3/25/2017 11:34:51 PM
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The only "Flip phone" alternatives I have seen is when one, for instance, wants to go to say a "GO Phone"--which is OK. How far we've come, though...that's the implicit message on how people seem to be tiiring to old technology......
JohnBarnes
3/26/2017 1:08:36 AM
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Ariella, Mpouaryan,
Well, way back around 2000 people were already dreaming of the "fully self training" products that would have no manuals and no help; they'd just be so obvious and intuitive that any kid could pick them up and make them work. I got paid a nice chunk of change to write a white paper about the concept.
At the time I was sure we'd never get there. But we're already further than I thought we would get. And I think there's a lot more room to run.
Ariella
3/26/2017 10:03:23 AM
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@JohnBarnes kids do seem to find mobile devices much more intuitive to use than older people. So perhaps there is something to that.
mpouraryan
3/26/2017 10:27:50 AM
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Technology keeps people young--it is part of the transformation process that can continue to help drive sales for tech providers--right?
JohnBarnes
3/26/2017 10:49:58 AM
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Ariella, Mike Pouraryan,
You've just hit on a hotspot in the research about self training systems: do younger people experience more success because
1) they are more flexible so they respond better to exploring than to lists of directions?
2) self teaching protocols are the main ones they have encountered so they don't try (and are not confused by) other ways of learning?
3) expectations are lower so they don't try to do more difficult things?
4) their idea of how to accomplish things has been conditioned by the methodical approach of programmers, so they actually think better and more clearly about what they are trying to do?
There is evidence for all of the above.
mpouraryan
3/26/2017 11:06:47 AM
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..and If I may humbly expand on this, whether the young will embrace--and whether the older generation will also because everyone has to matter no matter what their age bracket is.....
dlr5288
3/31/2017 12:08:07 PM
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Very true! All generations should be considered. It's important to grasps the younger generations interest, yet still be able to hold an older generations attention and motivation to try a new way/device.
mpouraryan
4/1/2017 12:35:12 PM
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Let's trust all remember it and realize it--I wonder if that, in fact, can be possible especially as the World is aging.
dlr5288
4/24/2017 12:49:37 PM
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Yeah it seems to me that the older generation is getting left behind a lot in the terms of the new technology that comes out every month. I don't know if it's possible for them to keep up.
mpouraryan
4/24/2017 1:36:14 PM
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Happy Monday to all!!! It has been quite a Monday already. One thing that I view at the heart of transformation is this: As we age, we have to be willing and able to change--this is why the tools being developed must be user friendly and simple. That's at the heart of it all....
dlr5288
4/28/2017 11:42:54 AM
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You're right! I guess it doesn't really matter the age of the person as long as they're willing to move along with technology and keep up!
elizabethv
3/27/2017 2:52:22 PM
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@mpouraryan - That's a fair point, technology helps people feel like they are connected to the younger crowd who are, for the most part, all connected. Maybe that's why my Mom has always been a part of technology (she actually is in charge of technology at the school she teaches at) Maybe it makes her feel younger. Maybe that's why I try to stay on top of things..... The can of worms this thought opens up....
mpouraryan
3/27/2017 2:56:00 PM
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What you noted--as we bid farewell to March and Q1 2017 this week here at TT and beyond--reminded me of what General MacArthur Reminded us all..I note this because we should never quit and always be open--I view it as an implicit mission of TT that I am so grateful to have been able to contribute to!! :) :P)
Age wrinkles the body. Quitting wrinkles the soul. Douglas MacArthur
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/d/douglasmac378358.html
Ariella
3/26/2017 10:06:06 AM
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@mpuorayran I use a flip phone as a Go Phone. We also have people using smartphones as Go Phones. For those who are not such heavy phone users and who use their computers or laptops or even tablets for more involved processes, it doesn't necessarily make economic sense to take on a contract for unlimited minutes each month.
mpouraryan
3/26/2017 10:10:30 AM
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As you know, there are a number of service providers who do not have "contracts" anymore. The changes are frankly dizzying to be witness to.
Ariella
3/26/2017 10:17:26 AM
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@mpourarayn True, thjough not all deals are avilable in all areas. The really cheap deals for unlimited talk, text, etc. one sees advertised, for example, are never available in our location. AT&T pay as you go is a pretty good option for me. I find I even have a balance to carry forward, something it does allow users to do.
mpouraryan
3/26/2017 10:18:59 AM
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You have to be careful, though, that you have 60 days to clear out your balance or else you will lose it--it happened to be with my GO Phone.
Ariella
3/26/2017 10:41:25 AM
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@mpouraryan Right now I'm on a plan with 90 days. You do have to renew before the expiration, or else lose the balance. It's not something I've ever done, though some people in my household who shall remain nameless have let their balance replenishment lapse and so lost the balances. It also does allow a one-time payment of $100 (plus tax and fees) to keep the balance current for a whole year.
mpouraryan
3/26/2017 11:11:32 AM
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What you've underscored is what is fundamental: The need to be educated and be aware and have the matter in our own hands--that's crucial.
dcawrey
3/26/2017 4:10:51 PM
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@mpouraryan For the most part there are no contracts but instead there are device payment plans.
I think those are pretty close to being contracts anyways - you can't really break making those device payments.
mpouraryan
3/26/2017 4:17:19 PM
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The device payments also, at some stage, needs to be thought through as well. I wonder when what Reliance has done in india will arrive in America--now that will be a game changer--right?
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