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srufolo1
4/21/2017 8:49:26 PM
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Re: Language?
@elizabethv It is surprising that language nor gender "don't really make a difference." As a linguist, I find that kind of naive. Language is one of the most important factors to consider. Also surprising is that gender does not matter as much either.
afwriter
4/22/2017 5:58:09 PM
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Re: Language?
What Adi is saying makes sense, but I have to say that I agree that it is surprising that language isn't a bigger barrier. Even if a majority of users speak French or English you still have two competing languages.
DHagar
4/24/2017 6:12:59 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
@JohnBarnes, great insights!
Maybe our generation was too busy watching the sports to build the connecting identity with the younger generations with their teams!
Also, the entire physical fitness priority - led by President Kennedy, made physical exercise more important. Finally, maybe the younger generation has too much competition for their time with entertain options, and maybe we identified more with sports as it was one of few channels to provide active participation for individuals?
Anyway, times are truly different and we will make a big mistake if we don't understand that.
DHagar
4/24/2017 6:15:46 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
@srufolo1, very true! And maybe it also points out the disconnects of a more mobile society today? It is the same thing as neighbors and neighborhoods - many people are not connected in with their local communities!
JohnBarnes
4/24/2017 7:38:22 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
DHagar,
I think the explanation of why the generation-to-generation sports link broke might be even simpler: the gradual spread of the "everyone has their own screen" model of entertainment. When there was one TV in the house, and everyone watched one thing together, young kids were more or less forced to watch the game, and because of the way young minds work, they couldn't help learning (and asking questions about) how the game worked. It's the same way people used to learn to watch the news, I suspect.
JohnBarnes
4/24/2017 7:40:07 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
>>>times are truly different and we will make a big mistake if we don't understand that.
I nominate that as "Hagar's Law", the defining condition of life now and in the foreseeable future.
Perfectly seriously, by the way. Alvin Toffler said, and got paid (many times) to say, that the world became modern when most of the experience of still-living old people was irrelevant to the current situation; but I think your phrasing is both broader and more succinct than any of the various ways he said it.
DHagar
4/26/2017 6:32:35 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
@JohnBarnes, well that does make sense! So they never learned all the intricacies of the game and have not become "hooked" game watchers! That can also explain why as long as they know the score, they are satisfied.
DHagar
4/26/2017 6:34:05 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
@JohnBarnes, thank you - I like that - Hagar's Law! I am also honored to be in the company of what is one of my favorite authors - Alvin Toffler!
JohnBarnes
4/26/2017 9:52:38 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
DHagar,
One other thing that probably amplified the effect was that back when everyone watched what was on a home's one screen, sportscasters had to be knowledgeable enough not to overly irritate the more devoted (and knowledgeable) sports fans (themselves heavily educated by much more information-dense newspapers -- and alone in newspapers, sports pages assume the reader already knows a great deal and understands complex points). If a sportscaster said something dumb, Dad or Uncle Jack would blow up, maybe even call the station, definitely shred the sportscaster's authority in front of the family -- and there were thousands of Dads and Uncle Jacks in every city.
Nowadays, any "five hundred dollar haircut on top of a dollar-ninety-eight brain" can say almost any inane thing; millions of viewers won't know the difference and aren't in the company of anyone to educate them. So not surprisingly, sports get reduced to visual highlights; instead of a viewer learning to watch how teams defending against Steph Curry's three pointers are forced to spread their defense far too thin, they're encouraged to just be amazed at how far out he can it a three from. Instead of watching how the infield adjusts to each successive batter (something TV often doesn't even show), the viewer is encouraged to wait till there's a crack of the bat and a short explosion of motion.
So it not only isolates the viewer from sources that might teach them about the sport, it actively encourages watching in a dumb sort of way.
JohnBarnes
4/26/2017 9:56:42 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
Second thought, come to think of it: watch any historical event newscast (lots of them available on YouTube nowadays) from before about 1965, and compare with one post 1990. We tend to think of it as "dumbing down" but maybe it's actually television's response to decreasing viewing skill; people know less about how to get information out of the screen, so necessarily there's less information per minute.Maybe this issue is more important than sports ...
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