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dlr5288
dlr5288
6/30/2017 3:40:13 PM
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Re: AT&T's $119M Plan to Modernize Centers for Disease Control
This plan is huge! It will definitely be interesting to see where it goes and how it is all orchestrated.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
6/6/2017 10:52:02 PM
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Re: AT&T Modernize CDC
srufolo1,

CDC may have been gagged by any number of policies at any number of levels; the decision to go down this road doesn't appear to have been completely theirs.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
6/6/2017 10:40:25 PM
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Re: AT&T Awards
ElizabethV,

It's a straightforward matter of two endlessly propagandized lies: that the market is always more efficient and cheaper, and that the big corporations actually operate in a free market. It's been a major stream in American politics since at least the civil war and maybe going back to Alexander Hamilton: we had the most advanced central bank in the world and destroyed it because it was "unfairly" squashing the thousands of shinplaster mills that backed President Jackson, and thus, to quote Bray Hammond, we entered the Civil War with a financial system perfectly suited to the Wars of the Roses.  The Erie Canal, built by a government owned and run corporation, is still running (as the NY State Barge Canal) and a vital trade route; hundreds of canal companies existed solely to extract money from foreign investors. We made the world's first nuclear reactor and then handed nuclear power to the utilities, paying them to take it; built the world's best, cheapest, and most efficient postal system and then allowed UPS, Fedex, etc to cherry pick the few high-revenue streams off of it (and also to acquire many of the skilled workers due to forced layoffs).

So a quick look at CDC and AT&T is: CDC has some of the best data science programs (government programs, not computer programs) in healthcare, albeit running on very old gear because the government is a cheapskate (also known as being frugal).  AT&T is back to the ways of its ancestor corporation: it hopes to have the government pay for development work, buy the gear, and probably get operating contracts out of it.  None of this will improve anyone's health or knowledge but it will make AT&T a lot richer.

What can anyone do about it?

Well, we can start by pointing it out. The organization that landed on the moon is not necessarily inferior to the organizations that produced New Coke or the Edsel.  The people who run the most powerful military establishment in history are not automatically bumbling doofuses compared to the sort of genius who drives a casino into bankruptcy. 

 

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srufolo1
srufolo1
6/2/2017 12:53:14 AM
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Re: AT&T Modernize CDC
@JohnBarnes  Why did CDC not comment I wonder. It makes you feel as though something is not honest about this whole process, or that the agency is hiding something. 

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srufolo1
srufolo1
6/2/2017 12:44:36 AM
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Re: AT&T Modernizes CDC
@freehe  That unfortunately sounds the way contracts are awarded for everything, not just the government sector. It's disheartening to think that things are not always on the up and up.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
5/31/2017 5:59:53 PM
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Re: AT&T Awards
@JohnBarnes - That's a disagreement I'm more than happy to jump ship on. Lol. I would be fine with not having to pay twice for such products. :-) I suppose I can understand where your argument comes from. Not sure how likely it is to change anytime soon. But I understand. 

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afwriter
afwriter
5/31/2017 5:18:16 PM
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Re: AT&T Awards
It's not only tech companies, unfortunately. I live in a state where public money funded a multi-billion dollar for-profit sports stadium, and that is just the first example that comes to mind. 

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Itsmeshawn22
Itsmeshawn22
5/31/2017 3:48:52 PM
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AT&T's $119M Plan to Modernize Centers for Disease Control
I think this is very interesting witht he technology these days and will be great in thew future. The results will be shown in the future and i cant wait to see how this plays out in the future and will it succeed or will it go down. I also thinkthe plan is great and with the technology these days will be a good plan to moderize the society and the specs will be soon great again.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/30/2017 10:14:36 PM
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Re: AT&T Awards
ElizabethV,

Well, here we disagree. What is developed with public money and at public expense ought to be available to the public -- but the big tech companies have been finding ways to get the public to pay once for development and again for deployment for a very long time.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/30/2017 5:22:51 PM
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Re: AT&T Awards
Dcawrey, Most upgrades are either adding needless features that some engineer thought were cool, or fixing bugs that should not have been there in the first place. They're just an excuse for the vampire tech companies to come back and feast some more. Particularly in research, backward compatibility -- the ability to seamlessly reprocess archival data -- is vital. Having the latest and being up to date is not. Government is one of the few places big enough and strong enough to force vendors to supply what is needed instead of the pointless "progress" peddled by the engineers and marketers.

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