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clrmoney
5/26/2017 1:56:16 PM
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Smartphones usage more and more
Of course smartphones is at a all time high and they don't have much TV they said because you can access all of that on your phone etc.
elizabethv
5/26/2017 3:16:45 PM
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Friends
There's an episode of Friends, where someone states that they don't have a television set. And Joey's response is, "What's all your furniture pointed at?" (I think it was Joey.) It was just supposed to be funny, but it definitely highlights a theme in our culture. Our lives, to some degree, revolve around a shiny box. Smartphones may just be miniture versions of this shiny box, and capable of doing far more, but they will never be able to take the place of television in our homes. I would imagine even if smartphone penetration matched televisions (and I would bet they will at some point) they still won't be able to replace the television. Even if we choose to all cut the cords, that doesn't mean we'll be getting rid of our teleivison. At some point, there may be some device, or cultural shift that would change the role of the television in our homes. But realistically, it's going to take a lot to change how we "point our funiture."
Michelle
5/26/2017 5:43:02 PM
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@Elizabeth I think VR and AR are hoping to gain a slice of the home entertainment market. Given enough time, they might get it a spot in the family room along with all the other devices.
srufolo1
5/26/2017 8:33:34 PM
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@elizabethv I, for one, own two TVs. One is a flat screen UHD and the other is something that probably no one owns anymore: one that has a VCR. I understand why smartphones are on the rise, but as long as TVs keep pace with the technology, and can be used as a connected device, I don't see them disappearing anytime soon.
afwriter
5/27/2017 11:44:23 PM
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They definitely aren't going anywhere in my lifetime. I have a TV in almost every room in my house, but that is because I write about TV and I travel from room to room a lot.
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@afwriter: Man, you've got me pining for an apartment I missed out on many years ago. It came furnished and there were TVs in every room (bathroom included). I would have rented it but the landlord took it off the market. I wound up having to search for another couple of months -- and settle for a place not nearly as nice.
afwriter
5/31/2017 5:13:15 PM
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Hahaha @Joe, I don't have them in the bathroom unfortunately, but I have thought about putting the smart TVs on a swivel so I can see them from multiple angles.
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@afwriter: Hah! I just settle for having a Sudoku book or my phone handy.
afwriter
5/27/2017 11:48:13 PM
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There are always going to be things that are just better to watch on the television. What we will see (already seeing?) is TVs continuing to get bigger and clearer to directly oppose smaller screens.
JohnBarnes
5/29/2017 6:18:09 PM
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Elizabeth,
Putting on my furniture history hat (couple courses in that while I was studying theatre design) and not looking up any sources for 20 year old information, I seem to remember that in most cultures with furniture the furniture is pointed at something -- the hearth, a window or sliding doors, the household shrine, but something. Apparently sitting together and all looking the same way is pretty basic to humans living together.
That also leads to the thought that there's at least one reason why VR will probably never dominate a room in the house the way that TVs, cabinet radios, pianos, fireplaces, etc. have in prior ages: you need something with a definite location that other people can be seen to be watching.
Michelle
5/29/2017 6:46:03 PM
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@John That's really interesting. Now it's time for us to all look at our computer screens to learn a little more about this sitting and staring at the same thing as a group...
JohnBarnes
5/29/2017 7:27:53 PM
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Michelle,
I sometimes wonder if that isn't one of the hidden strengths of lecture format in school, which almost everyone professes to hate, and yet which never seems to go away or even really diminish. Perhaps "everyone face Grandpa/ma and s/he will tell us the lore" is in our genes, and getting into that arrangement is a signal that turns on our attention. (Or our sleep response, if I may judge by what my own lectures did to students ...)
Michelle
5/29/2017 8:11:27 PM
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"Hidden strengths" eh? Have you discussed your theory with other instructors? You might be onto something. We are stuck (or appear to be) on the lecture format.
dcawrey
5/30/2017 12:53:36 PM
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Interesting read.
What I'd like to know more about is the interaction between smartphones and television. It certainly is having a big impact on how we all view media, but I'm not sure there is any good data out there about it.
vnewman
5/30/2017 2:21:55 PM
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Let's not forget the affordability factor - smartphones are (mostly) an expensive endeavor and there are some segments of the population who simply cannot afford it. So what do you do for entertainment then? You have a TV.
Michelle
5/30/2017 9:44:08 PM
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@dc I like to think we'll see some data from Pew in the near future. We're all wondering what everyone else does while watching TV.
(I'm reading and typing on a laptop while the TV is on)
JohnBarnes
5/30/2017 10:03:46 PM
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I actually "watch" TV only when pressured into it by family, so typically while I am on a couch where a TV is on, I'm reading articles or books on my smartphone. (I often explain this to family as 'if you're going to make me sit in the room with a television at least let me have something interesting.')
Michelle
5/30/2017 10:32:24 PM
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@John it's good you join the rest of the group, even if you don't bother with the TV. At my house, someone is almost always reading something while sitting in the living room with the TV on. We watch some things together, but not everyone has the same interests.
vnewman
6/1/2017 2:03:29 PM
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@JohnBarnes, I actually do the same thing - the TV is a passive bystander for me while I do something else like clean, do laundry, cook, etc.
My husband just tells me to turn it off, but I treat it more like a radio show.
I do however think you are anomoly in "watching" a fire though :)
JohnBarnes
6/6/2017 10:48:42 PM
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@dcawrey: There have been a lot of studies over the past few years demonstrating that people like to multi-screen -- use a device while viewing television.
For a while, advertisers tried to leverage this with television show-specific apps to use while watching a particular program. Nowadays, they've gone back to relying on branded hashtags and hoping for the best.
vnewman
5/30/2017 1:39:33 PM
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@JohnBarnes - Exactly! I made a similar point not that long ago in another column. Without a TV, what would people gather around? A fireplace maybe, but it depends where you live in the country and you can only stare at a fire for so long. I'd bet if you take out the TV entirely and put a circle of chairs together in a room, you'd see everyone in the house sitting in those chairs watching their own personal devices and not interacting much at all.
You are on the money with thinking this kind of behavior (having something to watch/listen/passively do together as a group experience) has been ingrained into our collective unconscious.
JohnBarnes
5/30/2017 10:05:45 PM
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vnewman,
As another data point, I can watch a fire a great deal longer than I can watch a television. For one thing it's the perfect thing to watch while listening to a story.
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@vnewman: Well, remember, before TV, the radio (those big, funiture-like jobbies) used to be the living-room gathering point.
srufolo1
5/26/2017 8:39:43 PM
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CTA Study
This is an interesting study by Consumer Technology Ownership and Market Potential. With 80 percent of U.S. households now owning smartphones, they are certainly catching up to those owning TVs at 96 percent. At this rate, soon smartphones will surpass TVs.
JohnBarnes
5/29/2017 7:35:22 PM
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US Smartphone Penetration Hits 80%, but Still Lags TV
This is very interesting by many points that came across about the us smartphone penetration. I believe that it will be more than 80% in the near future or mabe less with the satisfation rate going these days and will be total interesting to see as the time goes on in the days. I honestly think it will be a good result that it will produce.
mpouraryan
5/27/2017 5:37:55 PM
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Re: US Smartphone Penetration Hits 80%, but Still Lags TV
It is indeed interesting no doubt--the question we have to think about is this: What's then? As we are witness to a post-TV World (and as I am working away, SkyNEws is streaming in the background..and at my own Network, we've got Al Jazeera streaming live) that is already here. That's a question we have to ask--right?
mpouraryan
5/27/2017 5:37:56 PM
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It is indeed interesting no doubt--the question we have to think about is this: What's then? As we are witness to a post-TV World (and as I am working away, SkyNEws is streaming in the background..and at my own Network, we've got Al Jazeera streaming live) that is already here. That's a question we have to ask--right?
Ariella
5/27/2017 9:43:24 PM
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Re: US Smartphone Penetration Hits 80%, but Still Lags TV
@mpouraryan Who sets what streams in the background? Do all employees come to an agreement, or is set by the higher ups?
mpouraryan
5/27/2017 10:27:31 PM
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Re: US Smartphone Penetration Hits 80%, but Still Lags TV
For those of us lucky enough to have our own businesses, it is up to us!! :) But on a mor seirous note, I would suspect that it has to do with the mission and what is determined by indeed the higher up--As an example, SuperCuts Franchiees are given an opportunity to stream music thru iHeart--BUT they have a liimited choice.
Interesting times..as I wish all a in the US a fabulouso Memorial Day W-End......
JohnBarnes
5/29/2017 7:37:46 PM
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Re: US Smartphone Penetration Hits 80%, but Still Lags TV
Ariella, Mike Pouraryan,
In another sense, of course, the culture as a whole and the communications industry in particular is always setting what streams in the background. That's going to be another interesting aspect of tv you can talk back to, I suspect.
mpouraryan
5/29/2017 7:46:53 PM
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Re: US Smartphone Penetration Hits 80%, but Still Lags TV
we've got elements of it as we are able to talk to our FireTV to decide what we will watch and when Cortana talks back to us--elements of it are arleady there--exciting..and escary at the same time!!
Onward to June...may we be ever so excited ever more!!
JohnBarnes
5/30/2017 10:10:31 PM
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Re: US Smartphone Penetration Hits 80%, but Still Lags TV
Mike Pouraryan,
I don't know if I really see any scary downside to letting people control what comes at them through their tv screens more and more. The whole thing reminds of Gregory Bateson's illustration that if you are studying someone cutting down a tree, you are looking at a dialogue between the person, the tree, the cut in the tree, the axe, etc. and the whole "mental" system extends well beyond the boundaries of the skull. Similarly, a really interactive mass communication system might come to resemble mass telepathy.
Nothing to worry about! Just reassure yourself watching Forbidden Planet!
(..... monsters from the id ....)
US Smartphone
We do all know that the smartphone is at the higest point right now. You are able to access anything you heart desires on the smartpone. I have to say I use mine alot. I work from it, send my emals, music and even watch my shows. There are some people that dont have tv because of this. I do also have to say that this does sound like and interesting study that they are doing.
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