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clrmoney
6/7/2017 4:12:05 PM
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OTT Video revenues
I'm not surprised that Over the Top/OTT will be growing and getting better in 5 years with what they have to offer for us and will be plus for them as well.
mhhf1ve
6/7/2017 7:10:58 PM
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Can broadband keep up?
> "In fact, Internet video is set to surpass physical media (DVD) revenue for the first time in 2017.."
It's not that surprising that streaming video is taking over -- purely based on the convenience of being able to go anywhere with a mobile devices versus hauling around DVDs. But how long will it take before broadband will be overloaded? I suppose 5G should "fix" things, but the uncertainty of the 5G deployment timeline makes me think that "video buffering" problems will continue for quite some time.
Adi
6/8/2017 8:23:00 AM
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Re: Can broadband keep up?
mhhf1ve - I think some would say it's surprising it took so long. The shift towards streaming is well illustrated by Netflix' user-base. But interestingly UHD Blu-Ray players are selling well in the US, wonder how that will shape up in coming years.
mhhf1ve
6/8/2017 10:37:03 AM
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Re: Can broadband keep up?
Adi, thanks. I didn't know UHD bluray was doing well. That's really interesting that physical media isn't dead quite yet.
Adi
6/8/2017 12:22:29 PM
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Re: Can broadband keep up?
mhhf1ve - Yes, over a million UHD Blu-ray discs sold last year, which doesn't sound like much but is substantially more than Year One when Blu-ray launched. Don't have the player number, but it was pretty good too. And this was all in less than a year, so not too shabby. But we'll see how it goes -- there's no doubt that physical media is a fading market. Just might hang around a bit longer than most expect.
mhhf1ve
6/8/2017 2:05:14 PM
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Re: Can broadband keep up?
> "there's no doubt that physical media is a fading market."
That's for sure. My last few laptops don't even have a built-in disc player of any kind. And my desktop's disc player hasn't been used in years. I think my Xbox is basically what's keeping optical discs alive. If some video games weren't still sold as physical discs, I don't think discs would still exist.
Now I have to look up to see if Xbox supports UHD bluray...
mhhf1ve
6/8/2017 2:10:04 PM
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Re: Can broadband keep up?
TIL: gaming consoles are probably keeping UHD Bluray alive. So now I wonder when Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo are going to quit selling discs. Whenever they plan to, that's when the physical media market will collapse.
afwriter
6/10/2017 5:45:16 PM
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Re: Can broadband keep up?
Nintendo has already switched back to cartridges so we'll see how long it takes.
afwriter
6/10/2017 5:31:29 PM
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Re: Can broadband keep up?
That is surprising to know, I know that I have seen UHD Blu-Ray discs popping up more in stores. I wonder if it won't become like smart TVs where it is nearly impossible to find a TV that isn't a smart TV anymore.
afwriter
6/10/2017 5:28:21 PM
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Re: Can broadband keep up?
"It's not that surprising that streaming video is taking over -- purely based on the convenience of being able to go anywhere with a mobile devices versus hauling around DVDs"
There's actually a comedian who jokes about how he has bought digital movies he already owned in DVD form simply because he was to lazy to get out of bed.
elizabethv
6/12/2017 6:12:58 AM
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Re: Can broadband keep up?
@afwriter - that might be a comedian's joke, but I've literally done it. Not quite as lazy as just getting out of bed, but definitely too busy to walk down to my basement and sort through my 200+ completely unorganized DVD's to see if I can find that one kids movie my kid is begging me to watch, when I can just rent it for $2.99. I've even bought movies I own on DVD because I'm at work, where I just stream everything, and even if I could find time to sort through my DVD's and find the movie, I can't watch a DVD at work, and more often than not I stream anymore anyway.
mhhf1ve
6/12/2017 2:14:18 PM
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Re: Can broadband keep up?
Add to the fact that DVDs can get scratched/damaged, and I assume almost everyone who has bought a physical copy will also buy a streaming copy for the convenience and as a backup...
I think they're selling them as bundles now, too, so you can buy a physical disc and then get a streaming copy for a discount....
elizabethv
6/13/2017 6:46:43 AM
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Re: Can broadband keep up?
@mhhf1ve - That's true, I have a few movies I've bought that were bundled with an e-copy of the movie as well. What would be really nice though is if there was a way to transfer the DVD's to e-copies. Of course I wanted that when the switch from VHS to DVD and I know copyrights make it legally impossible. But a girl can dream. :-)
afwriter
6/23/2017 12:49:38 AM
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Re: Can broadband keep up?
I have over 300 movies in digital form on my VUDU platform both for posterity and to take my collection wherever I go.
dlr5288
6/28/2017 2:32:03 PM
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Re: Can broadband keep up?
I hate that about DVDs. Mine always get scratched! But also I don't remember the last time I bought the hard copy of a CD. I always just get it downloaded to my phone.
mhhf1ve
6/7/2017 7:13:26 PM
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global trends..
> "Cable subscriptions are growing steadily in the APAC region.."
Hmm. Will cord-cutting hit Asia soon? Is there any prediction that Asia might leapfrog the cord-cutting step and go straight to streaming and OTT apps? I haven't been keeping tabs on S Korea's video market, but I'd be surprised if they haven't seen major cord-cutting trends, too?
Adi
6/8/2017 8:26:26 AM
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Re: global trends..
mhhf1ve - there's a lot of OTT providers in Asia -- it's a really active market. But I think they are mostly targetting non-cable households. Naturally, that will affect future subscriptions, but for now cord-cutting is more significant in the US than most other regions. It is picking up in Europe, but there have always been a lot of cord-nevers in Europe, since over-the-air broadcast households are far more common here.
Re: global trends..
@Adi - From my understanding, over-the-air broadcast in Europe is a lot better than it is in America. Is that correct?
Adi
6/8/2017 8:49:39 AM
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Re: global trends..
elizabethv - I guess it depends on your definition of good. The US chose a digital standard (8-VSB) that optimized picture quality. Europe chose a standard that used multiple carriers (COFDM) to allow for more reliable reception. In the US, if a signal deteriorates below a certain threshold, the picture drops. And given the technological approach selected, that happens more often than it does in Europe.
So, basically, you are more likely to get reliable over-the-air reception in Europe. And that's why more Europeans just use their antennas, and don't sign up for payTV. Also, because more people use antennas, they tend to just be in place when you move into a new apartment, so installation is very simple -- just plug in the box and you're ready to go.
elizabethv
6/12/2017 6:07:51 AM
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Re: global trends..
@Adi - I just remember from my few trips to London that a lot of places seemed to have TV, and there generally tended to be a lot of people watching. I think a fair number of Americans seem to use the television for background noise a lot more than they are actually paying attention to what's on. But then I haven't been to London since 2007, so maybe a lot has changed in the last 10 years. Now that we all seem to have our noses in an electrical device.
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