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Ariella
Ariella
7/20/2017 5:12:32 PM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
@vnewman that concern already was born with E-Z Pass, particularly the type found on the Turnpike that takes a read at various points. It's easy math to calculate the speed of a car based on that and so find out if it was speeding. Supposedly, it is not used for that end.

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mpouraryan
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7/20/2017 5:06:56 PM
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Re: Big Brother
It is imperative for all policymakers to embrace smart cities.  It is at the heart of transformation--isn't it?  ..and why not?   

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vnewman
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7/20/2017 4:53:15 PM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
Got it!  Very interesting indeed.  If it can detect pace, it can detect areas where traveling over the speed limit is prevalent and perhaps direct the use of speed traps to those locations.

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Ariella
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7/20/2017 2:14:24 PM
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Re: Big Brother
@Kishore we may need to get Joe's take on this. I should think it's the same as capturing people on camera. So long as you warn them, they give tacit agreement by entering the area. The same should apply to passing by something that could pick up on their voice. It's illegal to record a phone conversation without a person's knowledge, but consider how many times we are told that the phone conversation we are about to have "may be recorded?" Simply continuing with the call is consenting.

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
7/20/2017 2:11:39 PM
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Re: Big Brother
From my understanding of the law, you need the permission of the person who is being recorded otherwise it is illegal. 

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Ariella
Ariella
7/20/2017 2:09:17 PM
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Re: Big Brother
@Kishore or perhaps they will simply have to extend the warning: not only may you be caught on camera, but your voice may be recorde, as well. That's probably considered sufficient from a legal point of view.

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
7/20/2017 2:05:24 PM
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Re: Big Brother
Hah! They are already having a hard time processing the information that they are prioritizing. If pedestrians' conversation was included, I don't think the current networks can handle it. In the future, they might but you will probably need an application to separate them from the rest of the information flow. So restrictions could be put on applications eavesdropping on pedestrians.

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
7/20/2017 2:01:26 PM
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Re: Big Brother
Something like shot spotter will be included in a larger package. Some cities already have them as part of smart lighting. 

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afwriter
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7/20/2017 1:21:29 PM
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I am sure that there are a million great uses for them, just like the ones @Kishore points out, I'm not arguing that. I just don't want them to be used to catch J-walkers and listen in on pedestrians' personal conversations. 

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Ariella
Ariella
7/20/2017 12:58:07 PM
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@Kishore would that work as a complment to or as replacement for services like http://www.shotspotter.com/?

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