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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
7/21/2017 11:28:18 AM
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Re: Big Brother
Yes-but they are balking--we have to stay vigilant.  On a side note, though, this is a cool little thing that has happened in Mississipi thought you all might enjoy..as I wish you all a great w-end:

http://www.routefifty.com/tech-data/2017/07/mississippi-chatbot/139614/

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Ariella
Ariella
7/21/2017 9:40:54 AM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
@elizabethv under Bloomberg's mayorship, NYC got a lot more cameras for security. It's not nearly as covered as London is, but there are many areas where you would be on camera whether you like it or not. 

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Ariella
Ariella
7/21/2017 9:39:13 AM
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Re: Big Brother
@elizabeth Google has shared that it gets requests for information from the FBI as you see here https://theintercept.com/2016/12/13/google-publishes-eight-secret-fbi-requests/ but I doubt that the government can demand information merely for the purpose of giving a speeding ticket. Maybe if the speeding car was a hit and run and ended up killing someone, the police would push for it, though, that doesn't mean Google would comply. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
7/21/2017 9:25:28 AM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
Kishore, 

That was a really interesting article! Though it definitely seems counter-intuitive. If you see traffic stopping ahead, and you create a gap between you and the car in front of you (the only way I can even see to do this is to slow down yourself.) But I can see the cars behind you going around you and taking up that space when you slow down to create it. This will only work until a few cars have filled it up and then the cars behind you will create the jam. Also a lot of people seem to think the whole road is a race track and letting another car in front of them is akin to conceeding the race. And then you have the zipper merge..... Ugh. Traffic. But driverless cars scares me far more than traffic ever will. (True story, a Tesla just went all the way through a house in my neighborhood yesterday, and there is question of it being set to driverless when it happened.) 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
7/21/2017 9:04:01 AM
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Re: Big Brother
@Ariella - And that becomes a catch 22, because maybe you don't want the call recorded, but you do want your customer service issue resolved. But you can't do one without the other. Perhaps you don't want your voice recorded, or your picture taken in an intersection. But it's the only route you can take to work so you don't have much say in the matter. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
7/21/2017 9:01:44 AM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
@Ariella - Traffic on Google maps is determined by the speed at which our phones are moving in our cars. So realistically, if the government wanted to - they could coerce Google into giving them that information and use it to catch speeders. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
7/21/2017 8:59:40 AM
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Re: Big Brother
I agree, there is always the possibility of the Orwellian future. (Some speculate we are already there.) But for right now, the advantages seem to far outweigh the possibilty of the negatives at this point. Leaving the option for changing that opinion depending on future circumstances. 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
7/20/2017 5:21:19 PM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
Let's hope they continue to work to mitigate it as best as they can.

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
7/20/2017 5:19:39 PM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
The following article discusses some of the behavioral issues that cause congestion which could be ameliorated by data. 

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/one-driver-can-prevent-a-traffic-jam-1476204858

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
7/20/2017 5:13:36 PM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
At the moment, I don't think compliance with speed limits is a priority. It will take more than one pole to detect speeding and processing that data might be too expensive for the benefit realized. 

However, it is well known that delinquent behavior of a few drivers can cause massive congestion. When drivers don't keep sufficient distance from other cars and make it difficult to change lanes, congestion is more likely. The cameras on street lights can potentially help to detect the behavior that predicts congestion. 

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