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afwriter
afwriter
7/28/2017 10:33:04 AM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
I know right? I have a lot of animals so I would like one to keep up pet hair collection around the house, but there is absolutely no need for them to record that data much less share it. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
7/28/2017 8:40:52 AM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
@afwriter - I think I draw the line at a Roomba giving away the floor plans of my house. In fact I know I do. I'll stick to an old fashioned vaccuum. I could use the exercise anyway. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
7/28/2017 8:39:50 AM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
@Joe - First, lol. That is hilarious. Second, that seems to be the kind of thing my brother is trying to avoid. (And to think, he's never even read 1984!) He's one of the few milenials not on Facebook. Honestly I find it annoying, sharing pictures of my kids with him takes at least an additional 30 seconds. The nerve! Realistically, at this point you almost have to stop caring - and that's where the get you. Because it's hard to have a job, or be involved in normal society without agreeing to those Terms & Conditions. So if you can get by with some kind of job that is happy to have you in any capacity, that's awesome. But even my grandparents had to reluctantly get can email address so my grandpa could apply for jobs at The Goodwill and Ace. It's just part of life anymore. 

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afwriter
afwriter
7/27/2017 11:03:58 AM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
Hahaha @Joe, love the disclaimer. I have to agree with you, I stopped reading terms and conditions a long time ago because they all read about the same and the fact that they will collect your data is pretty much implied now. I just read the other day that Roombas are going to start sending maps of our floor plans to Amazon.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
7/27/2017 10:07:30 AM
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Re: Slightly more seriously, LEDs should make reverbere laws finally inevitable
@John: For my personal tastes, this all sounds dystopic. I seem to be extra sensitive to LEDs and I find them way too bright all the time.

Or maybe everything with LEDs just uses way too much power. But even if that's the case, I don't see that trend changing any time soon.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
7/27/2017 10:04:24 AM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
@elizabethv: As a lawyer, I tend to read everything I "agree to" carefully -- except privacy policies and terms and conditions these days (unless I'm interested from an academic perspective)...because personal experience has demonstrated that it's best to just assume that just about every privacy policy and online T&C agreement says some version of "We get to do whatever we want with your data. Neener neener."*

* Not legal advice. Dear God, definitely not legal advice.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
7/27/2017 9:18:39 AM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
@vnewman - My brother will actually sit and read all of the terms and conditions for everything he agrees to. (Not saying we shouldn't all be doing this, but I don't have that kind of time.) He refuses to agree to just about any app on his phone that wants access to the microphone or camera - which sincerly limits the apps he can have on any phone. And I tell him it's so you can make a phone call through the app, but he doesn't care. He's convinced someone is going to try listening to his conversations. On the one hand, this makes me think he's crazy. On the other hand, I do I have a sticker over the camera lense on my laptop....

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Ariella
Ariella
7/26/2017 2:29:08 PM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
@vnewman Yes, I  recently interviewed  the CEO of Centiment who said part of the benefit it got from being in Sprint's Corporate  Accelerator program was access to data: "As a telecom provider, Sprint was able to provide data about people's smartphone usage that gives a picture of individuals in particular places. Unless users opt out, Brown explained, every time they use the phone, they are sharing data about their usage. " 

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vnewman
vnewman
7/26/2017 2:25:01 PM
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Re: Many Smart City Applications
@Ariella - Exactly!  And we are seeing the same kind of sentiments from our enterpise users when installing Mobile Iron Device Management on their smartphones.  

Even though the company explicity states it only collects specific types of information, IT IS STILL POSSIBLE to collect anything and everything on the device.  Most people do not trust that just because you aren't collecting something now, you won't start doing so in the future.  It opens the door.

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Ariella
Ariella
7/26/2017 9:33:42 AM
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Re: Big Brother
@elizabethv Unfortunately, not.

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