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Michelle
8/7/2017 2:09:03 PM
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No surprises
I can't say I'm surprised by this finding:
"baby boomer and Generation X survey respondents were less stoked about full autonomy"
I am a member of one of these age groups and tend to agree. I am less stoked about full autonomy.
dcawrey
8/7/2017 3:02:26 PM
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Re: No surprises
There is for sure a mental barrier that many of us need to go through when it comes to vehicle autonomy.
Driving is still something that older generations want to experience, whereas millenials are over it. That's the chasm I see.
Re: No surprises
As a millenial (just barely) I don't think I could ever get on board with full autonomy unless the car was on a track, and essentially an individual train car that went where I told it to go. Lol. After reading about the guy in the Tesla in Florida that was decapitated by a semi and then just a few weeks ago the Tesla in my own neighborhood that went through a house (literally, ended up in the backyard) I have no interest in full autonomy.
dcawrey
8/8/2017 2:18:27 PM
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Re: No surprises
Autonomy is the future, so people should get ready for it.
In cities, there are just too many cars today. This causes congestion and a host of other problems. Driverless cars could solve that problem.
srufolo1
8/9/2017 1:22:20 AM
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Re: No surprises
@elizabethv I could barely stand "cruise control" because I felt out of control using it let along a fully autonomous car. Nope, not ready for that. However, I do like some features, such as blind spot detection, which would make it easier to park parallel when in the city.
elizabethv
8/10/2017 9:58:14 AM
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Re: No surprises
@srufolo1 - Blind spot detection is awesome! I have a back-up camera on my van, but my grandparents actually have a program that guides the car as you back up. Automatic parallel parking would have helped the woman in the large SUV I watched try to park between two other cars before giving up after about five minutes last week. I did have to chuckle at that one, but I guess not everyone can parallel park. (I'm no expert, but I can make it work in my van, between two vehicles. So I am at least able to do it. Lol.)
faryl
8/22/2017 3:39:27 PM
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Re: No surprises
@Srufalo1 I'm with you! I think I have used cruise control *maybe* 20 times in the 36 years I've been driving. (More likely closer to 10)
I've tried it on longer distance driving to make sure I don't speed - but I just don't like not feeling in control of how fast the car is moving (even if it stays the same speed - lol)
srufolo1
8/22/2017 10:48:41 PM
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Re: No surprises
@faryl Exactly. Cruise control never gave me a safe feeling. I felt as though something in the mechanism would go awry and it would start speeding up the car to like 100 mph and I wouldn't be able to stop it. But maybe that was a bad dream I had!
faryl
8/31/2017 6:33:51 PM
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Re: No surprises
Yes! I always felt the emphasis seemed to be on the "cruising", but wanted it to be on the "control".
srufolo1
8/31/2017 10:03:53 PM
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Re: No surprises
@faryl Yes, the term "cruise control" seems like a bit of an oxymoron. In any event, the whole autonomous car thing scares me.
Michelle
8/9/2017 2:05:22 PM
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Re: No surprises
I'm not sure "want to experience" is the right phrase. "Prefer over a miscalculated over-correction by machine" is almost right.
afwriter
8/9/2017 11:36:03 PM
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Re: No surprises
I can't stand not being in control of the car, yet at the same time I would love to not have to drive on long car rides.
clrmoney
8/7/2017 2:54:08 PM
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More Car Features
They are always coming up with new inventions for cars so this is no different but hopefully it will make things easier, safer, and convenient for the person driving.
mhhf1ve
8/7/2017 5:24:43 PM
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obligatory Henry Ford quote...
"If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses."
This is an interesting survey, but people often don't really know what they want. If full autonomy was as good or better than a human driver, I think people would change their minds immediately and say they'd get a level 4+ autonomous car.
There will be some adoption curve and gradual improvement to autonomous features, but I think at some point, it won't matter what age bracket you belong to -- you'll want a driverless car for day-to-day transportation because it'll be cheaper and more convenient to get picked up by a robot car, instead of having a car sitting in your garage unused 50-80% of the time.
mhhf1ve
8/7/2017 5:30:44 PM
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aftermarket autonomy...
The real market test will be when aftermarket "autonomous sensors & software" become a mainstream product. There's already an open source project that is working on a Honda Civic retrofit -- that'll turn a cheap reliable car into a driverless car for a few thousand bucks (if it works).
If level 4+ cars can avoid 99.9+% of road accidents, cars might even be able to do away with airbags and other safety features that wouldn't get used very often... And the auto insurance industry might get incredibly profitable.. until it suddenly becomes completely obsolete.
batye
8/7/2017 8:03:18 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
@mhhf1ve interesting point, my question would be how long sensors will last and how easy to replace them...
mhhf1ve
8/7/2017 8:06:51 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
I'm not that worried about the durability of the sensors.. as much as the safety of the AI for level 4 autonomous driving software. Will it prioritize my safety in the car over pedestrians? :P
batye
8/7/2017 8:09:19 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
@mhhf1ve interesting observation it like new rule for robo/A.I. logic whom will live or die??? interesting...
Michelle
8/9/2017 2:07:03 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
Exactly! We haven't solved the matter of life over death in a machine like that...
mhhf1ve
8/9/2017 2:51:54 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
I sorta wonder what will happen if we figure out that autonomous cars -- if they're programmed to drive like humans -- are almost as dangerous? We could probably reduce traffic accidents by reducing speed limits, but we don't... and if AI cars are going to drive 10MPH over the limits just like us, maybe they won't be that much safer either?
Ariella
8/9/2017 3:12:08 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
@,hhf1ve I wrote about that problem a couple of years ago. It's a serious ethical problem to plan programming that may have to harm someone because in real life, you can't cheat your way out of the the no-win scenario presented in something like the Kobayashi Maru.
Michelle
8/10/2017 1:57:06 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
Interesting perspective. We've seen early chatbots do some stupid human tricks, how do we avoid such things with cars?? There are so many variables to consier. I think we're still very far away from driverless cars because of this.
afwriter
8/9/2017 11:42:49 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
It's like the question whether you pull the level to switch the train tracks and kill one person versus three. It's a moral question for a machine without morality.
afwriter
8/9/2017 11:45:12 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
I'm not sold on an aftermarket product being completely safe. Obviously, I could be proven wrong but the whole idea scares the crap out of me.
elizabethv
8/10/2017 9:55:54 AM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
Eek! An aftermarket autonomous vehicle package - not only would I personally not trust that, it scares the crap out of me just thinking of other cars on the road having it. A few weeks ago a guy ran a stop sign and hit a van with a mother and her 3 boys in it - all 4 of them died. It is a story that still turns my stomach inside out to this day (because I too have 3 boys that were similarly aged to hers) And that vehicle had a driver.
afwriter
8/10/2017 10:26:46 AM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
@Elizabethv if we are talking about the same story, the driver of the car that hit them was texting at the time. It's interesting because the argument could be made that fatalities due to things like texting while driving and falling asleep at the wheel would be reduced, but we also don't know what new fatalities could pop up due to equipment malfunction.
mhhf1ve
8/10/2017 3:02:28 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
> "I'm not sold on an aftermarket product being completely safe."
Well, nothing is *completely* safe. And I assume any aftermarket products for autonomous cars will have to abide by the same rules as OEMs? So... unless people just start DIY'ing their own AVs? I guess it has happened already -- the Comma.ai guy shut down his company because he couldn't handle the regulatory requirements....
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