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clrmoney
clrmoney
8/23/2017 2:28:27 PM
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Smart City Analytics
I thought we already had smart transportation in some newer version cars but smart cities can be mainly positive with some downsides to it.

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batye
batye
8/24/2017 3:29:53 AM
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Re: Smart City Analytics
@clrmoney I would say not yet but we gonna see it soon the way things happening... 

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DHagar
DHagar
8/24/2017 5:13:52 PM
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Re: Smart City Analytics
@clrmoney, we do have active development of autonomous vehicles, but the infrastructure tied with Smart Cities deals with the transportation infrastructure and capacity, and the "connectedness" that cities can provide from their unique role with geography and public services.

I truly like Orange's focus on analytics and the deliverables from Smart Cities.

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
8/24/2017 7:05:14 PM
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Re: Smart City Analytics
What I found curious about Orange's approach is that it takes the data from smartphones which can be used for making intermodal transportation choices. Companies in the US, on the other hand, are focused on traffic management and the data is coming from street lights. Hard to say which one will be more viable.

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afwriter
afwriter
8/25/2017 11:27:12 AM
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Re: Smart City Analytics
@Kishore, Do you think that has anything to do with the fact that more Americans drive than in other countries or is it just where we have chosen to place our priorities right now?

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
8/25/2017 12:00:23 PM
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Re: Smart City Analytics
@afwriter: I am not sure what your question is. I am guessing it is the familiar point made often that there is not enough public transportation in the USA. This was regularly countered by the point that public transportation is inefficient particularly because a lot of time is lost when you change the mode from say a train to a bus. Information from mobile phones helps to get the timing right and that is what Shanaah is saying in this Q&A. 

 

I am personally not a fan of public transportation. There is no way it can achieve the flexibility, speed, and ease of a car. On some routes, where a point-to-point connection is possible, it works. Here is San Francisco, a lot of people work in the financial district and they use public transportation because there is no parking. The experience sucks because the trains are crowded and frequently break down as they are old and poorly maintained. 

Furthermore, public transportation takes up a lot of valuable real estate on the streets if not most of it but does not use it as much as cars do. Shared cars will help, autonomous will be even better so that parking space is freed up. I won't be surprised if in coming years people demand the removal of especially light trains which take up more than half the street space so that more autonomous cars can be used. 

 

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freehe
freehe
8/25/2017 11:35:56 PM
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Re: Smart City Analytics
@Kishore Jethanandani, Good points. We have street cars where I live and they are always empty. This definitely take up a lot of the road and cause traffic congestion. That money would have better been served repairing roads and bridges.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
8/27/2017 2:49:15 PM
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Re: Smart City Analytics
We can talk about IoT all day but if there isn't proper analytics on the data it could be a useless exercise. It seems everyone wants to talk about the network, and not what exactly to do with said network. 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
8/30/2017 3:42:30 PM
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Re: Smart City Analytics
Exactly. There has to be something behind IoT to make it useful. Otherwise there's no reason to have it.

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batye
batye
9/3/2017 7:14:01 PM
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Re: Smart City Analytics
@dcawrey interesting point, I could not agree more as in my reality - hands on expr. in the field is must own... I would say until you learn it and do it in the IT trenches in real life... until technology passes the test in real envr. in real world... - how I see it... 

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DHagar
DHagar
8/25/2017 5:48:54 PM
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Re: Smart City Analytics
@Kishore, great observations!  If it performs as the other transformations with digital information have, I believe that the smartphone data (being multi-modal) will better capture both the high number of variables, as well as more real-time information than the street lights.  As it follows the user, it is a better core source of data and builds its own data sets.

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freehe
freehe
8/25/2017 11:32:59 PM
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Re: Smart City Analytics
@Kishore Jethanandani, Orange is another company invading consumers privacy by taking data from cell phones to "supposedly" give transportation choices. I limit my cell phone usage to phone calls, text, emails and some internet surfing. I don't want companies analyzing my data, my choices, or my life. No one can tell me better than me - what I want now or in the future.

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batye
batye
9/3/2017 7:16:40 PM
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Re: Smart City Analytics
@freehe good point... but in my books everything is no longer private and Co. do sell and trade your info each day... even google dispaing ad related to the skype call you make day before to the Co. - it scarry when you think about it... 

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freehe
freehe
8/25/2017 11:28:53 PM
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Re: Smart City Analytics
@clrmoney, the auto industry has not provided smart cars for consumers, however companies are testing self-driving autonomous vehicles/tractor trailers and boats. Some cars have a few smart features such as self-parking and mirrow detection when switching lanes but the cars are not completely smart.

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batye
batye
9/3/2017 7:11:39 PM
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Re: Smart City Analytics
@freehe with all this technology in the smart car is no longer simple repair and replace if something fail or need to be replace... here is scarry reading - http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-edition-1.4042503/updated-saskatchewan-farmer-hacks-his-smart-tractor-to-avoid-costly-dealer-fees-1.4042504 

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freehe
freehe
8/25/2017 11:23:28 PM
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Connective Tissue
"In a smart city context, the platform provides the connective tissue for all the different parts that go into a typical a smart city layout, such as sensors, data, connectivity and management."

I have never heard anyone use the word "tissue" when describing technology. That is an interesting word to use.

I get it. The platform provides the support and connection for different parts for a smart city layout.

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freehe
freehe
8/25/2017 11:25:56 PM
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Choices
"Datavenue is made up of four components; select, connect, manage and control."

Although it is great the Orange helps companies select the right products and services companies need to have a basic understanding of what they need, why they need it and the best solution for their needs. Otherwise the service provider will encourage companies to purchase the most expensive products. It is a slippery slope.

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