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 afwriter
8/25/2017 4:58:04 PM User Rank Platinum 
Where are they?
Is the lack of skilled employees due to a diminished interest in the field or is the technology just moving faster than the educational opportunities?
 Joe Stanganelli
8/25/2017 10:10:53 PM User Rank Author
Re: Where are they?
@afwriter: In addition to my earlier (albeit cynical) comment, one reason is that certain areas, like cybersecurity, never attracted that much attention to begin with. Very little coursework has traditionally been offered in the area.
 freehe
8/25/2017 11:03:15 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@Joe Stanganelli @afwriter. True. Cybersecurity and network engineering are seen as specialized skills that requires taken training courses. They should be college majors since they are needed more than the hot technologies such as AI and VR. If more companies invested in cybersecurity, network engineering, etc. they would be less of a need for AI.
 ms.akkineni
8/28/2017 4:50:00 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@Joe. S:
Completely in agreemnet with you. I believe there has to be much emphasis on cyber security areas as part of high school / college course work. With all that is going on with Cloud, IOT and smart technologies security will be one key thing that needs more knowledge and skilled folks around the globe.  DHagar
8/28/2017 5:24:13 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@ms.akkineni, well stateded! I also believe Mike's points is an excellent one that the lack of exposing and educating students to the new careers that are evolving is a very valid concern.
I also believe that telecommunications has not "upgraded" their image to the dynamic opportunities that now exist for carriers and the exciting future it can offer. It is a natural for those who are aware! ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 12:16:27 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@DHagar:
Good to hear back! It is good that there are certain concepts of computers are already part of the curriculam. But certainly that needs to be carried on further through out by introducing upcoming trends which would really help young generations. DHagar
8/29/2017 4:55:51 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@ms.akkineni - absolutely! Young generations need to be oriented to the critical role and skills technology plays today. Those who are older need then to further be upskilled so they learn, not how to be a computer geek, but how to work with technology and more importantly with data.
ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 5:27:36 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@DHagar:
Very true. Professionals from older generation now should gear towards focussing on data and data analytics to understand trend. Their further analysis of data and their findings could be shared with teams so gaps can be identified and discussed before new initiatives, systems, processes can be planned further. DHagar
8/29/2017 6:23:23 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@ms.akkinneni, beautifully stated! That would enable them as well to see the value, as opposed to thinking it is learning just another computer program.
ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 6:47:18 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
Thanks. That value based approach would help to boost their motivation levels for sure as opposed to the thinking of just learning another computer thing, as you stated.
Joe Stanganelli
8/28/2017 9:08:14 PM User Rank Author
Re: Where are they?
@ms.a: Reminds me of when I was in high school. My high school offered a whole series "computer technology" courses that got in this sort of thing, as well as coding.
Unfortunately, rather than being unweighted electives, these courses were weighted the same as "remedial" courses. So for an honors student like me who graduated near the top of his class, to take these courses would have meant an automatic plummet in GPA -- which led to my decision to not take them. Now that I'm an adult and have since learned that report cards and school transcripts aren't even worth using as toilet paper, I have come to regret this decision. ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 10:26:26 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@Joe:
I completely hear you as I see my high school son making his choices. I am so glad he did AP computers two years in a row. He also went ahead and did his internship in App development this summer. He still has two more years before he gets to college. But i am sure these courses and experiences will give him a perspective to make him think about what he would really like to do in his life. I don't expect or force him to get into IT or programming just because I do that. All we tell him is having those IT skills would always be an advantage no matter whatever he choose to do for his living in future. Joe Stanganelli
8/29/2017 12:45:58 PM User Rank Author
Re: Where are they?
@ms.a: We have entered an age where coding abilities are highly desired for (if not a requirement for) non-coding/non-IT, more traditional jobs. I have little doubt that his education will be helpful wherever his path goes.
ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 1:17:56 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
Absolutely..
Any IT knowledge, skill and experience is only going to make one more and more desirable as we move into future.  elizabethv
8/30/2017 8:02:33 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@ms.akkineni - Without a doubt those skills will be helpful! Even if he chooses to get into a different career, he might be able to move up within the company to a different department or something. He could always find it useful later in life. I would also think if he's in high school now, he's at the perfect age to still be useful in the technology field. I worry by the time my kids are adults that field will be saturated.
ms.akkineni
8/30/2017 9:40:12 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@elizabethv:
Yes, i would hope for the same and look forward for ays to come where he would choose a filed of his own. Coming to saturation, we never know. With the way things are evolving there could bemany more advncements in AI and Robotics fields and they still prettu much align with technology. so you certainly have more to look forward. elizabethv
8/31/2017 7:53:52 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@ms. akkineni - I sure hope you're right about that! Only time will tell. There's a lot of emphasis on training younger kids in coding right now. Maybe some kids have a natural talent for coding, so it might be a good way to find the people more naturally pre-disposed for the field. But with all the emphasis at such a young age I can't help but worry about saturation. I don't remember any kind of career field being pitched to me until I was much older.
ms.akkineni
9/25/2017 8:35:25 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@elizabethv:
That is very true. Some kids have that natural ability to build that logic. But retaining that for long time is a challenge. My son who is now a teenager use to be an excellent chess player. He won his first tornment at Kinder - 3rd grade level when he was just five. He went on winning for state afterwords. But suddently after 11/12 his inetrest completely changed to basketball. he doesn't play chess anymore. Programming is also similar kind of logic building skill and he has it teh best. But he has no patience to retain that skill as well. These kids need something that yields quick results. they have no patience to wait. The ones that could retain and carry that long will go long way.  faryl
8/28/2017 5:31:03 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
Another challenge with cybersecurity is that those who have the skills, may not have experience that is verifiable in a way that one might feel comfortable putting on a resume.
And those with skills that have been "government certified" (so to speak) have a hard time getting through most company's recruiting/background checks.
elizabethv
8/29/2017 8:45:17 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@Joe - I do know the University of Phoenix offered and Associates Degree that specialized in Cyber Security. At one time anyway. Whether or not it's still offered, and people's ability to do anything with it once it was earned - I have no idea.
afwriter
8/29/2017 10:27:50 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
As long as the coursework was legit I think the Univeristy of Phoenix and other online schools are a perfect way to get these degrees. What better way to learn about/practice cyber security than to work online.
elizabethv
8/30/2017 8:08:34 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@afwriter - UoP previously had some shady policies. I haven't worked for them for years so I can't speak at all to what it's like now. They would tell students that they could take course work for Healthcare Management and lead them to believe it would help them become a nurse. They got away with it because it isn't entirely incorrect, but no one graduated with that degree and then became a nurse in just a few short steps. So my inclination is to believe that the Cyber Security degree was similar. But I could be way off base too. Cyber Security and nursing aren't exactly the same thing. :-)
Joe Stanganelli
8/29/2017 12:49:23 PM User Rank Author
Re: Where are they?
@elizabethv: There's too much emphasis placed on formal education and degrees these days (and there long has been). We live in an age of instant information, instant training. HR departments and their organizations would do well to place more emphasis on this than on $100,000-$300,000 pieces of paper.
ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 1:24:21 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@Joe. S:
I totally agree. But there always is a choice, no one stops anyone to proceed and do something for not having formal education, thought it is strongly enforced. We know about Bill. G and Mark. Z. But ofcourse not everyone will turnout to be either Bill. G or Mark. Z. But also no parent would evre say that 'don't waste your time in formal education but instead pursue something.."  Michelle
8/29/2017 1:43:09 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
Agreed! I've even seen some degreed folks advance at alarming rates even though they aapear to be mediocre at best. They aren't the brightest but they are treated as such because of degrees. It's so odd...
freehe
8/25/2017 10:53:23 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@afwriter. I think it is a combination of both. This problem has occurred because when the technology was developed not all companies trained their employees and had to spend additional money to hire specialists.
Joe Stanganelli
8/26/2017 10:29:46 AM User Rank Author
Re: Where are they?
@freehe: Which only perpetuates the problem.
If nobody is doing any training, then they have only themselves to blame for any perceived so-called talent shortage. afwriter
8/26/2017 11:59:10 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
And then when training does happen you have a kind of blind leading the blind situation where the people who are training aren't exactly experts in the field.
Joe Stanganelli
8/27/2017 10:12:36 AM User Rank Author
Re: Where are they?
@afwriter: Which just goes to show the folly of the "talent shortage" argument. If just about everybody is lacking, then HR's excuse of not being able to hire or promote certain people for certain jobs is a fallacious one -- because the companies themselves are the ones that need to invest in training at this point.
DHagar
8/28/2017 5:21:51 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@Joe, absolutely! Companies need to begin to view the human capital as an "investment" not a cost! They cannot rely solely on the generalized public training to produce the corporate skills they are seeking. AT&T is a great example of stronger commitment - and I believe they will have the workforce they need to stay competitive.
ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 12:19:58 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@DHagar:
I really like the analogy you made about human capital as investment not a cost factor. That makes perfect sense and hope companies realize that. Also i am in agreemnet with you about AT&T on setting right example. DHagar
8/29/2017 4:57:37 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@ms.akkineni, thanks! If we don't begin to understand how to develop and use the work activities of employees to building greater value, then everyone loses.
AT&T is brilliant in their recognition of this point. ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 5:30:56 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
Exactly. We need that culture to understand and value employees to be adapted across the board. In one of the interviews published in these forums, I recall reading a correlation between employee satisfaction and customer satisfaction. Companies should strongly believe that employees are assets rather than liabilities.
DHagar
8/29/2017 6:25:31 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@ms.akkineni, interesting perspective! That matches Southwest Airlines and some of the Tech Carriers' view (ie Huawei), who state that their employees come first and customers second - so that you really build that culture, not just try to instill it.
ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 6:51:23 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@DHagar:
Very interesting to know about these companies making this statement 'employees first, customer second..', which is not so common. But if we think further, by saying employees first, employees would be very very motivated and that automatically yields into excellent results for company. That in turn would impact in customer satisfaction anyways. Pretty interesting approach. DHagar
8/29/2017 7:05:39 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@ms.akkineni - it does make you think differently. And yes, actually employees are the way that deliver service and value - so it makes great sense.
ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 7:36:43 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
Yes, certainly different train of thought.
afwriter
8/28/2017 5:38:16 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@Joe, Do you think the best course of action would be to create a 2-year degree with more "hands on" coursework like a vocational degree? Or do you more think that there should just be more training in house for employees with other backgrounds? Maybe the latter now and the former later?
faryl
8/28/2017 5:45:31 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
Our government doesn't seem to be doing a great job at finding skilled cyber security talent either. :-/
Joe Stanganelli
8/28/2017 9:10:54 PM User Rank Author
Re: Where are they?
@faryl: Sure, but to be fair, the public sector competes with the private sector for the same talent -- but doesn't have the private sector's budget or perks to offer.
Former director of DARPA Arati Prabhakar commented on this issue in testimony before Congress a year or two back. faryl
8/31/2017 6:14:16 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
IMHO, it's not just budget - it's reputation.
The CFAA serves as a pretty strong deterrent for even white or grey hat hackers to be open about any self-taught skills.
And I get the sense that a lot of those who have the interest & skills don't want to be putting that kind of control/power in the hands of the government, since it could mean compromising the privacy of citizens.
 batye
9/3/2017 5:40:33 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Where are they?
@faryl this days privacy thing of the past - how I see it... as nothing is any more secure or private... even Passport office - http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/passports-security-travel-terrorism-1.3232612 and http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-passport-renewal-change-security-1.3219326
afwriter
8/25/2017 5:00:12 PM User Rank Platinum
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs
I think that articles like this point out that robots aren't stealing our jobs, they are changing them. Sure, there may be fewer jobs in manufacturing, but we can't fill positions in these other key areas.
Joe Stanganelli
8/25/2017 10:09:06 PM User Rank Author
Re: Jobs, Jobs, Jobs
@afwriter: Of course, another consideration is that -- supposedly -- a great deal of AI talent was gobbled up by the self-driving car big boys...leading others wanting to break into the AI field to fight over those who are left.
My previous comment notwithstanding, the AI area seems to be one of the possible rare exceptions...but, then, we have a lot more education going on in colleges as to automation and AI compared to more pressing needs like cybersecurity and network engineering. freehe
8/25/2017 10:55:37 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Jobs, Jobs, Jobs
@afwriter. If the manufacturing employees are trained for these key area positions problem solved. However, I doubt that path will be taken by most companies. This will cause a huge increase in unemployment which leads to a decline in health, increased stress, and an increase in crime, and mental health issues.
Joe Stanganelli
8/26/2017 10:33:34 AM User Rank Author
Re: Jobs, Jobs, Jobs
@freehe: Moreover, as many forget to point out, the unemployment stats in the US provided by the BLS do not accurately reflect unemployment because they do not account for people who have dropped out of the labor market out of frustration, hopeless, deciding that after x months or x years without getting a job they need to go back to school or the like, etc.
Joe Stanganelli
8/25/2017 10:07:32 PM User Rank Author
So much stuff
Bah and humbug.
"Due to the lack of skilled employees across various sectors" Read: "Due to the lack of mildly skilled local employees willing to work for peanuts" This argument has been used to justify widespread abuse of the H1-B and L-1 visa programs, leading to a spate of massive layoffs of employees who are then coerced into training their far lower paid (and often benefit-less), far cheaper overseas replacements. There may be some exceptions (AI comes to mind, possibly), but as an employment attorney, in general, I don't buy the argument for a second. freehe
8/25/2017 10:59:25 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: So much stuff
@Joe Stanganelli, I agree. I work on a government contract and we only have about 10% of the staff born in the U.S. Many companies state that overseas employees are smarter. I disagree. Companies and the government contradict themselves. They push interest for students majoring in STEM fields and push an increase in filling technology jobs but neglect to say these jobs will be given to overseas employees leading to in increase in unemployment for many Americans. It all smoke and mirrors.
Joe Stanganelli
8/26/2017 10:31:54 AM User Rank Author
Re: So much stuff
@freehe: Isn't it just as politically incorrect to suggest that non-US employees are smarter than US employees as it would be to suggest that non-US employees are dumber than US employees? That argument is strange to me.
And I agree with you regarding the juxtaposition of how they are pushing STEM education... This has been a substantial problem in the semiconductor industry, and we are seeing it come home to roost throughout tech/STEM. elizabethv
8/29/2017 8:43:28 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: So much stuff
@Joe - Lol - I'm happy to see it being point out! Even if the problem is a lack of initial knowledge, I feel confident that the people exist in this country that would potentially be competent enough to learn. My admission of this is actually notable, as I tend to see a large portion of the population as intellectually challenged..... Still, just because I think people aren't intelligent NOW doesn't mean I don't also hold the belief that with some effort and time this could be changed.
Joe Stanganelli
8/29/2017 12:47:38 PM User Rank Author
Re: So much stuff
@elizabethv: Well, there's a big difference between intelligence and knowledge. Give me a very smart ignoramus any day over a highly experienced person of average intelligence.
ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 1:30:48 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: So much stuff
@Joe. S:
I don't think there is much to debate between highly experienced Vs intelligence. Having intelligence is very good but experience would only enhance that intelligence into practice and help to achieve. freehe
8/25/2017 10:56:09 PM User Rank Platinum
Employees
I think companies should train their employees while new products and services are being developed. It is much cheaper to train in-house staff than to hire new staff.
ms.akkineni
8/28/2017 4:46:12 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Employees
@freehe:
Can't agree more. Training has to be an ongoing thing in companies - be it about new products, new tools, policies etc. It may feel like an overhead at first but will surely yield into good results if you think about how it helps reatain the work force. afwriter
8/29/2017 10:29:52 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Employees
I have to agree that this is the best way to go about it, but we also need to be teaching people who have not entered the workforce yet so you don't have to reteach them once you've hired them.
 clrmoney
8/26/2017 11:09:49 AM User Rank Platinum
Learning skills in a short period of time
Comcast and AT&T are big companies that carry cellphones, cables etc. Maybe it is something more technical that the employees can't learn right away or maybe they just shouldn't have this option for the business at all.
 dcawrey
8/26/2017 12:27:35 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
We simply aren't training enough people for technology jobs in the United States. Some of the onus go to universities, but it also seems that companies are going to have to shell out for better training programs. These are expensive but totally worthwhile.
Joe Stanganelli
8/27/2017 10:11:14 AM User Rank Author
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
@dcawrey: Part of the real problem is that, unlike other countries (particularly those that place a tremendous amount of importance on and resources within their military), the US offers minimal to no InfoSec education in primary or secondary school.
dcawrey
8/27/2017 2:41:16 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
@Joe Stanganelli You are right. It's probably the most underrated part about the future of technology. It's not being talked enough about in schools.
 mpouraryan
8/27/2017 2:46:39 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
Some "Food 4 thought" 4 you all on this as I wish you all a great week..and for all in the US, a safe and fabulous Labor Day W-End:
http://www.ozy.com/fast-forward/ozy-poll-how-americans-are-preparing-for-the-day-robots-threaten-their-jobs/80094?utm_source=dd&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=08272017&variable=c5f3bcef125326858c2f195f08d8c672 Onwaord 2 September w/all its' possiblities!! mpouraryan
8/27/2017 2:50:03 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
..and one "final" food 4 thought 4 the month for all:
Imagine a computer that can emulate the human brain, in all its complex thoughts and processes. What might it want? Social scientist Robin Hanson plays out a future scenario starring the "ems" -- emulated brains that can think, feel and work like the human brains they're copied from. Enjoy this rapid-fire, mind-blowing glimpse at a hypothetical future. Watch » dcawrey
8/28/2017 12:43:04 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
@mpouraryan I'm pretty sure that's called artificial intelligence.
mpouraryan
8/29/2017 12:19:42 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
Grateful for your thoughts--the question is whether we have the courage to make sure we maintain our grips on it all--something I have emphasized throughout my discourse here-and some may get tired of it--but we've got to do it!!
elizabethv
8/29/2017 8:47:20 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
@mpouraryan - I doubt robots threaten my job at all. The day robots learn how to care for kids is the day I plan to pack up and find me some acreage in the middle of nowheresville.
Joe Stanganelli
8/29/2017 12:42:53 PM User Rank Author
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
@elizabethv: Without casting doubt on your child-rearing abilities as all, let me speak of averages and social norms:
Spend a few days watching nothing but daytime TV and YouTube videos, then tell me how terrible robots would be as parents. ;) elizabethv
8/30/2017 8:13:41 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
@Joe - Lol, good gravy the YouTube videos today have got to be scraping the bottom of the barrel for human intellect. I hope anyway. If it gets lower than this..... But you're right, some people do choose to parent with television. YouTube is banned in my house. My kids currently believe it's illegal - and I'm just fine with that.
ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 1:20:21 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
@elizabethv:
That is very true. We have seen the reactions of robo care in our previous cartoon contest, thogh that was more for fun. afwriter
8/29/2017 5:03:01 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
Rosie the Robot did it on The Jetsons right? Man, there are days that I could use some robot backup with the kids.
mpouraryan
9/1/2017 1:07:16 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
Greetings & Happy September to all throughout TT,
I get your humor-and It is greatly appreciated. But the current trends cannot be disputed no matter how we wish to look at it. The question is how we improvise, adapt and transform ourselves to make sure that sense of humanity is maintained--something I have underscored throughout my deliberations here throughout TT!! :) batye
9/1/2017 4:35:40 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
@mpouraryan good month ahead, with good holidays :) life in IT on TT...
mpouraryan
9/1/2017 11:05:08 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
@bayte: There is never a rest or a holiday for the "wicked" or the "wearY" or those of "glorified geeks" who do our small part to help make a difference--we have to plow on.
Onward 2 september with all its' possiblities!! batye
9/1/2017 11:11:46 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
@mpouraryan yes, September should be an interesting month - hope we learn something new...
mpouraryan
9/1/2017 11:26:24 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
The need to keep an open mind is ever so...as I hope all enjoy this as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eQsHEjfRrY Wishing all a great, restful and joyous Labor Day Weekend. batye
9/1/2017 11:45:41 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
@mpouraryan yes, could not agree more :) thanks for the link
faryl
8/28/2017 5:38:38 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
I've recently seen some ads for new training programs aimed at "white hat security training" popping up on Facebook - maybe that is starting to shift.
afwriter
8/29/2017 5:06:58 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
Hopefully they are legitimate and not some kind of scam.
faryl
8/31/2017 7:45:30 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Learning skills in a short period of time
Good point! I'll have to check it out next time I see the ad.
(Of course I haven't seen it since I left this comment!)
 srufolo1
8/29/2017 10:15:37 PM User Rank Platinum
Lack of Skilled Employees
I don't see how telecommunications does not sound interesting enough for students to want to get into that field. It would seem there are so many opportunities in telecommunications with the proper training. AT&T has the right idea to train its employees.
elizabethv
8/30/2017 8:16:42 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Lack of Skilled Employees
@srufolo1 - maybe people's initial thought is that a job in telecommunications would mean digging holes and running cable lines and that just doesn't doesn't preferable for a lot of people anymore. I think manual labor jobs are the ones that are really going to be hurting the most in the next 5+ years.
srufolo1
8/30/2017 10:03:09 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Lack of Skilled Employees
@elizabethv That's so funny because digging holes and running cable wasn't the first thing that came to mind for a telecommunications job. I imagined developers finding new ways to improve things for customers. More of a corporate thing ... with decent pay.
elizabethv
8/31/2017 7:56:46 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Lack of Skilled Employees
@srufolo1 - Lol! Maybe a possible perceived ambilvance on just what telecommunications really is, is part of the problem! The general population doesn't really know what to expect from a career in telecommunications, so they'd rather just avoid it. Lol.
srufolo1
8/31/2017 9:56:33 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Lack of Skilled Employees
@elizabethv I'm just the opposite. I tend to avoid the careers that I know what to expect. At this point, I want anything that pays a good salary with benefits even if I'm not sure of what I'm doing. I can learn if there is good training. lol
dcawrey
8/30/2017 10:08:08 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Lack of Skilled Employees
@srufolo1 Telecommunication is not interesting to students. What's interesting is mobile apps, social networks, video and VR. Telecommunications companies are indeed a very big part of this but often I don't think that connection is clear.
srufolo1
8/30/2017 4:29:31 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Lack of Skilled Employees
@dcawrey You're probably right. They have their eyes set on jobs at places like Google or Facebook. That's where training comes in. They need to understand the connection telecommunications has to apps, social networks, etc ... But when you're young, you have a lot of choices.
srufolo1
8/30/2017 4:29:32 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Lack of Skilled Employees
@dcawrey You're probably right. They have their eyes set on jobs at places like Google or Facebook. That's where training comes in. They need to understand the connection telecommunications as to apps, social networks, etc ... But when you're young, you have a lot of choices.
elizabethv
8/31/2017 8:03:16 AM User Rank Platinum
Re: Lack of Skilled Employees
@srufolo1 - It's funny that you should mention people wanting to work for Facebook or Google. The husband of a friend of mine previously worked for Google, and then quit when their baby was born so he could stay home (she makes more money than him.) Now that the baby is older, they are going to send him to day care, and he can go back to work. He can't get his job back at Facebook, so he's trying for Google and has said he doesn't want to get a job anywhere else. Sometimes I think it must be nice to be so stubborn about employment.
srufolo1
8/31/2017 9:53:04 PM User Rank Platinum
Re: Lack of Skilled Employees
@elizabethv Did you mean to say he couldn't get his job back at Facebook? And I agree, it must be wonderful to be so confident about getting a job somewhere. He must be young. I don't think they hire "older" people.
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