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clrmoney
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10/16/2017 12:45:34 PM
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Vodadone IOT Security
I think they may have some solutions or steps for IOT Security like the management platform etc. There need to be lots of security when tou are dealing with networking devices and machines.

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Ariella
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10/16/2017 2:14:49 PM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@clmoney I agree. No business can afford to skimp on security. It seems that the one who are more involved in IoT feel more confident about the connections being secured.

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elizabethv
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10/17/2017 8:59:35 AM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@Ariella - It seems Equifax did and I'm sure they'll survive. Of course they aren't a telco company, but still they are a business. And were apparently warned about the weakness in their security by Homeland Security early in the year. They did nothing. And more than doing nothing, when they discovered the breach, the CEO's of the company sold a bunch of their stock long before they ever told the public what had happened. And since apparently we aren't seen as their customers, banks are, and none of them seem willing to leave at the moment, I doubt they'll have much trouble at all recovering from this.

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Ariella
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10/17/2017 9:04:04 AM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@elizabethv you hit on a key point there. We're not the customers they serve. Their bread is buttered on another side, and that's likely a major reason why such things are allowed to happen. Yes, some heads do roll at these companies after such incidents, but typically just the ones of the people they decided were expendable as public scapegoats.

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mpouraryan
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10/17/2017 11:53:44 PM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
Happy Wednesday to all!! :)

Just saw this from IC3 On the very issue we're deliberating, FYI:

U.S. Department of Homeland Security US-CERT

National Cyber Awareness System:

 
10/17/2017 06:56 PM EDT

Original release date: October 17, 2017

In conjunction with National Cyber Security Awareness Month, the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) has issued an alert to individuals and businesses about the security risks involved with the Internet of Things (IoT). IoT refers to the emerging network of devices (e.g., smart TVs, home automation systems) that connect to one another via the Internet, often automatically sending and receiving data. IC3 warns that once a device is compromised, an attacker may take control of an affected system, obtain sensitive information, or cause a denial-of-service condition.

US-CERT encourages individuals and businesses to review the IC3 Alert for more information on IoT vulnerabilities and mitigation techniques.


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Ariella
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10/18/2017 9:00:16 AM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@mpouraryan I don't know how many people observe the month. It's been in existnece since 2004.  Why they chose October, I don't know, perhaps to get in ahead of peak holiday time.

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mpouraryan
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10/18/2017 5:35:10 PM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
it is an example of Good Government at work--but to your implicit point, we should not wait for one month--vigiliance is a 24-hr/7-day a week job for each and everyone of us--it is imperative that we all do our part!!!

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elizabethv
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10/18/2017 9:27:32 AM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@mpouraryan - This makes me wonder about the security in my sons Owlet. It's a tiny smart sock that monitors his heart rate and PulseOx, and then alerts my husband and I if either dips too low. (It's for babies.) But it connects to WiFi and we can check the numbers on our phones. I wonder if it could potentially be an even easier access point than the camera's I had mentioned previously. 

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afwriter
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10/18/2017 5:05:00 PM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
Man, IoT has already become so much a part of our lives that little (in size, not importance) gadgets like this Owlet can easily be overlooked as an access point. 

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elizabethv
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10/19/2017 8:50:41 AM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@afwriter - exactly, I never even thought  about the Owlet until looking at the post. It seemed so innocuous that it never even occurred to me, even while the entire time I was thinking about the video cameras in their bedrooms. I would almost think the Owlet would be easier to hack into. A review of their website doesn't even have the potential issue addressed, so I'm guessing there aren't many people even considering the possibility. 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
10/18/2017 5:35:52 PM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
I would recommend that you seek out advise on it to avoid any issues--it is vital to be safe than sorry especially in light of the guidance form IC3.

 

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Ariella
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10/18/2017 6:03:26 PM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@elizabethv after  the New York Department of Current Affairs issued a "Consumer Alert" regarding hacked wi-fi baby monitors, someone set out to find which would be safe and wrote this: https://kidsaversnetwork.com/newborn/which-baby-monitor-is-safe/ Nothing is hack-proof, though it identifies which are your best bets. 

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elizabethv
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10/19/2017 8:52:30 AM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@Ariella - that's awesome! Actually, that whole website is awesome. I want to check out almost every single list on there. I'm also really glad to see some agencies taking the possibility of hacking through baby monitors seriously. Hopefully in time, the weak links will be fixed. By then though I doubt I'll have a need for baby monitiors in my house anymore. Lol. 

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Ariella
Ariella
10/19/2017 9:00:36 AM
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@elizabethv True, progress can take time, but it may be reassuring to think that the problem may be solved in time for the monitors your children use for your grandchildren. I'm glad you like the site.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
10/24/2017 9:00:50 AM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@Ariella - That's a good point. My parents lament continually about the things I have for my kids that they never had for theirs. I supposed we all adapt and adjust with what we do have and don't really know much better. Though at least in this one area it's easy to see the problem and wish for its change before the next generation start having their babies. Who knows what kinds of gadgets the next generation will have for their babies. 

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Ariella
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10/24/2017 9:03:48 AM
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@elizabeth I think we're on the path from wearables to implantables -- or at least wearables that you don't even notice are there like small tattoos. They already do exist, but I believe they will become far more common.

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elizabethv
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10/24/2017 9:06:00 AM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@Ariella - Yeah, I'm fine with wearables, the Owlet is a wearable. I draw the line at implants and/or tattoos. (Not normal tattoos for decoration - anything that would contain my information kind of tattoo.) I was astounded by the number of people that agreed to the implants a few months ago. Nope, nope, nope. Not for me. I'll sell flowers on the side of the road before I'd get an implant.

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afwriter
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10/24/2017 1:12:32 PM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
I'm with you on that for anything other than medical uses. People have been getting implants for years (pacemakers for example) but having someone insert a chip into me so I can swipe my hand to enter the building is ludicrous. There has already been at least one horror movie about this concept (The Belko Experiment) which was a great example of how terribly wrong implants can go. 

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elizabethv
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10/25/2017 7:54:14 AM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@afwriter - my Mom actually has an implanted device to help with her migraines. I guess it was initially used for seizures but they found it  also works for migraines. There are little pads that give a steady current (from my understanding) in four places on her head, two on her forehead, two further back, and then wires that connect all the pads and then run down her back to a battery pack on her lower back, and she has to charge by wearing some device once a week or so. And I would absolutely never have something like that. (I say without having experienced the delibiltating migraines my Mom has, and do agree that could potentially change my opinion.) My husband thinks her whole device is amazing and calls her the "Terminator." But I hate the idea of things like that, up to and including hating getting an IV. I won't move whatever arm the IV is in, no matter what.

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afwriter
afwriter
10/25/2017 10:35:44 AM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
Wow, that sounds super invasive and uncomfortable. Your mom's migraines must be pretty bad if she is willing to go to such lengths. Luckily, for you and I implantable devices aren't mandatory...yet.

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Ariella
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10/24/2017 2:15:06 PM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@elizabethv Hopefully, they won't be forced on any people, though I could picture some paranoid parents considering it for their children.  So far, though, there is a storng push to get pets chipped. See https://pets.webmd.com/features/microchipping-your-dog-or-cat#1 

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elizabethv
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10/25/2017 8:02:35 AM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@Ariella - Yeah, my dog is microchipped, but I wouldn't microchip my kids. My kids carry personal alarms when we are in public (it's a necklace, and you can disconnect the "pendant" from the necklace if they get lost or feel like they are in danger. When it's disconnected an extremely loud alarm goes off. That's plenty of "safety" for me, and it doesn't have to be implanted in them. 

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Ariella
Ariella
10/25/2017 9:03:30 AM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@elizabethv a kind of personal alarm? Does it also give off location signals? I suppose that some wouldn't be satisfied with that because the necklace can be removed altogether. 

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elizabethv
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10/26/2017 8:12:31 AM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@Ariella - It doesn't give off a location, but they are still little and so they don't ever get very far from me. Mostly I use it for when my son goes into the bathroom by himself, because he's 6 and "independent" and doesn't want to go into the woman's bathrooom with me anymore. But I stand right outside the door the entire time, so if the alarm went off I'd bust into the bathroom no questions asked. And while I do use it when we are in crowded locations in case we're separated and I'm constantly keeping track of them, so I can't see them getting far. And the necklace can definitely be removed but I keep it tied short so it doesn't just slip easily over my kids very big heads (seriously - my kids have huge heads) The system isn't perfect, but while they're little I feel comfortable enough with it. 

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Ariella
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10/26/2017 8:48:12 AM
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@elizabethv it seems simple enough, and if it meets your needs that's great. I'm sure that at some point someone will come up with a "smart" version that allows parents to track their kids' location on their phones and possibly even send some preset messages to the necklace  like "Come home now."

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srufolo1
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10/20/2017 10:58:20 PM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@elizabethv  Equifax disgusts me. It's not "recovering" from anything as nothing can really touch this organization. It's been doing what it does for years without any guilt with all their inaccurate reporting that has destroyed people's lives. Why would it care about a breach?

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elizabethv
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10/23/2017 11:52:25 AM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@srufolo1 - I agree. But we're unfortunately pretty limited as to what we can do about it. Unless we stopped doing business with companies that use Equifax. And realistically that isn't as easy as wet might want it to be.

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freehe
freehe
10/20/2017 11:24:52 PM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@Ariella, I agree. However, although the article states that larger companies have the budget and resources to implement IoT security measures but it doesn't mean they will. I have worked for medium and large sized companies that lacked basic security measures. Many companies publicly say they think security is a high priority but in private they don't have tools or plans to support security.

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Ariella
Ariella
10/22/2017 10:38:41 AM
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@freehe that's true about a lot of things that get a lot of public attention, including sustainable design and equal employment opportunity.

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DHagar
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10/16/2017 7:00:48 PM
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Re: Vodadone IOT Security
@clrmoney, it appears that everyone is gaining awareness as to the value - these results are encouraging.

It is also interesting to note that they do not see it as a stand-alone technology, but rather linking with analytics; probably viewing as an edge data-computing source.

Progress may be in the offering?

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afwriter
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10/16/2017 10:45:34 PM
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4 Elements
<Security is built into all elements of our IoT solutions, from the ground up. If you look at the four main components of an IoT project -- access to the network, the network, the management platform, and storage of the IoT data>

Obviously, these are all very important, but I would suggest that "storage of IoT data" may be the dark horse - important element here because of all the ways the data could be used not only by the initial hacker but anyone they could sell it to. 

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srufolo1
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10/20/2017 11:01:47 PM
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Vodafone's Skpper on State of IoT Security
Interesting article. You would think the companies with more  IoT connections would be most worried about security. Seven percent of those concerned about security was surprisingly low. Guess the bigger you get, the more savvy about implementing effective measures to prevent breaches.

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elizabethv
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10/23/2017 12:02:56 PM
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Re: Vodafone's Skpper on State of IoT Security
@srufolo1 - you would think all companies would think all companies would concern themselves a little more with security. It would be nice if a major security breach would actually result in a loss of business for these companies but it just doesn't. As much as I love Target, and think it would be nice if these companies had a set back from their carelessness, even I didn't stop shopping at target after they were hacked.

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mpouraryan
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10/23/2017 3:08:42 PM
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Re: Vodafone's Skpper on State of IoT Security
They have no choice but not to--that's the driving force all have to recognize.   Any attempt at treating it hap-hazardly (ala Equifax) will be brutal--Although Equifax seems to have recovered..just checked the stock price--over $ 100 right now.

 

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afwriter
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10/23/2017 11:42:55 PM
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Re: Vodafone's Skpper on State of IoT Security
While it would have been nice for Equifax to not have the breach to begin with, I think they have done a pretty good job cleaning up their mess. That or we have been so programmed to move onto the next thing that investors forgot about the incident already. 

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vnewman
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10/31/2017 12:14:36 PM
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Re: Vodafone's Skpper on State of IoT Security
I literally had a non-reaction to the Equifax breach. Ive become immune to the shock and invasion of privacy factor. I immediately went into disaster recovery mode: Put a fraud alert on all the reporting agencies. Change some passwords. Hope for the best.

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dlr5288
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10/31/2017 1:48:18 PM
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Re: Vodafone's Skpper on State of IoT Security
I completely agree. I think security breaches are so common today that many people dont even blink an eye. Im hoping that soon well be able to at least bring these security matters to the forefront and slow them down.

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elizabethv
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10/24/2017 9:03:47 AM
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Re: Vodafone's Skpper on State of IoT Security
@mpourarayan - That's crazy that the stock price is that high! (Though the conspiracy therist in me believes it's all just a made up game for the rich anyway.....) Still, I heard that us regular folk who had their identity stolen will have to deal with this situation the rest of their lives. Social security numbers were taken and with those, they can be used and sold and reused until you die. So, so great for Equifax to have jumped back, I have a feeling people who actually had their information stolen won't bounce back quite as quickly. 

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freehe
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10/20/2017 11:19:29 PM
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Security
I am glad the Vodafone views security as a top priority. Moving towards IoT adds even complexity to securing data in an enterprise. Companies that use IoT will have to make security as top priority.

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afwriter
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10/27/2017 11:18:30 PM
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Re: Security
If only all companies cared like Vodafone. Maybe it will take some CEO's information being stolen before all companies start taking heightened security seriously. 

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afwriter
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10/27/2017 11:18:30 PM
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Re: Security
If only all companies cared like Vodafone. Maybe it will take some CEO's information being stolen before all companies start taking heightened security seriously. 

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elizabethv
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10/31/2017 5:42:38 AM
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Re: Security
@afwriter - that doesn't seem overly likely. The former CEO of Life Lock posted his social security for all to see.  It was part of his brazen advertising - he belived so strongly that Life Lock was successful that he was willing to give his social security number to the world. My understanding is that he quit after having his identity stolen a number of times. Though I suppose that was just one CEO and not multiple. So maybe the idea is completely accurate, it just hasn't happened to enough of them yet. 

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freehe
freehe
10/20/2017 11:21:07 PM
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IoT Security
IoT security will cause an increase in operating costs. However, the upfront costs are much cheaper than the backend costs due to a data breach or other security attack.

Security policies, procedures, plans, and audits are also needed in addition to security tools for IoT.

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afwriter
afwriter
10/27/2017 11:05:58 PM
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Re: IoT Security
@freehe You're absolutely right. I would liken it to insurance; you are paying now in hopes that what you are paying for will never happen. 

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