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clrmoney
clrmoney
12/11/2017 10:45:25 AM
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SmartBEAM
I know that there are new things that are coming out for new things to make it easier for us. Bust as time goes on and things become more easier and advance for this TV things becaasue we already have the digital now its a new one that's out. So I hope that this continue to be successful for business and to of use and service for customers.

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batye
batye
12/13/2017 1:26:37 AM
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Re: SmartBEAM
@clrmoney I see your point and this days everything becomes digital  and easy way it get more and more adopted everywhere... so it only mater of time before everything and everywhere the way I see it... 

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afwriter
afwriter
12/12/2017 1:13:34 PM
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$25?!
Do you know how much it costs a restaurant to carry a cable package in the United States? And to stream a pay-per-view fight is another couple thousand dollars on top of it. I think what they are doing here is amazing, but I wonder if something like this could ever work in the United States. If given the choice I think most people would enjoy watching whatever they want at their table versus the two or three channels that are on the TVs around the restaurant. 

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batye
batye
12/13/2017 1:28:15 AM
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Re: $25?!
@afwriter yes you are right, I think they would probably love the the option to watch it on they phone as it would be easy for them... 

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freehe
freehe
12/25/2017 11:43:21 AM
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Re: $25?!
@batye. I would love it too. Venues only paying $25 per month is great. SMARTBEAM helps reach underserved customers that do not have Wi-Fi in their homes or that cannot afford cable service. This allow customers that are mobile to still gain access to content.

 

 

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batye
batye
12/26/2017 2:46:56 AM
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Re: $25?!
@freehe yes you are right I could not agree more I hope in Canada we gonna have something similar at this price range... 

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Adi
Adi
12/13/2017 3:57:29 AM
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Re: $25?!
afwriter - It's an interesting idea. I wonder how much it is dependent on the culture of social viewing, particularly of major sporting events. The idea of going to a bar to watch a game as a group is fairly well settled in American culture so the big screen is important there. On a day to day basis though, I suspect just watching what you want on your phone could be a very attractive option - specially if it's at satellite quality with no pixelation or buffering.

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afwriter
afwriter
12/14/2017 11:09:41 AM
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Re: $25?!
@Adi I don't know if this is considered playing devil's advocate or not, but imagine Dad being able to watch the big game on a big screen while the kids watch Disney on other devices. This would be a huge win for sports bars across America. I have a feeling it would cost a little more here though. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
12/20/2017 9:04:52 AM
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Re: $25?!
@afwriter - In some ways that kind of thing is already available. Some restaurants have added those little black tablet like things on their tables, like Red Robin and Applebee's. Both of these restaurants have televisions that are viewable from the dining room. The little black tablets drive me nuts, it's absurdly easy to agree to the charges using one brings, and my 3 year old can click through it in a matter of seconds. Fortunately, I've also learned that most restaurants are pretty willing to take the charges off, if you ask, so long as you didn't use any of hte available content. If they get far enoough to play or watch on the tablet, your ship is sunk. 

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afwriter
afwriter
12/20/2017 1:36:42 PM
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Re: $25?!
@Elizabethv I work weekends at the first restaurant chain that carried those and they are more troube than their worth. There are the problems that you already mentioned, plus sometimes the batteries don't work, there's connectivity issues, and every once in a while the entire network shuts down just for fun. I think they are a great example of why robots can't take over human jobs yet.  

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freehe
freehe
12/25/2017 11:35:44 AM
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Re: $25?!
@afwriter. Thanks for the insight. I got excited reading the article. Now I know there are some risks and it isn't as good as it sounds in the article. Sounds like they need to do more testing and R&D.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
12/26/2017 8:11:01 AM
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Platinum
Re: $25?!
@afwriter - I never even really considered how they were powered. Though being battery powered seems obvious now, since they don't have cords attached to them. I personally think I'd like them a lot more without the "kids" factor. Even just some kind of fail safe to keep kids from being able to order so easily would do a lot to change my opinion. But if I worked at a place that used them, I have no doubt I'd find them as troublesome as you do. Especially since I'm sure my middle son is hardly alone in the "quick, hurry and get the games before Mom sees me!" act. 

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freehe
freehe
12/25/2017 11:40:21 AM
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Platinum
Re: $25?!
@afwriter. Those are good questions. It would be interesting to know those costs. Allowing customers to access videos services with Wi-Fi in small places like coffee shops, cafes, hotels or airports is great.

Venues paying for the service is even better. I wonder what the cost would be for U.S. companies to offer the for customers.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/14/2017 3:00:23 PM
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A lot more applications than just TV
Satellite high-bandwidth communications -- not just video signal but the whole internet -- has long been choked by three problems:

1) High latency to big geosynchronous stations (even at lightspeed, the 72,000 km round trip is a perceptible almost-quarter-of-a-second lag in the signal).

2) Orbital real estate; geosynchronous orbit is big but it's one band over the equator and a satellite needs a minimum angle subtended. Besides, it's too far to go for repairs and too expensive for easy replacement, and dead hardware tends to accumulate there.

3) Signal strength for the last mile to the actual consumer phone, screen, or computer.

In the last decade we've built new and better tools to be able to work from LEO so that geosynchronous is unnecessary;  1 and 2 are going away. But the problem of the last mile persisted.  This potentially fixes that completely.

Especially with the recent ruling on net neutrality, this puts a lot more possible players into the game. Telcos should be very nervous about how many competitors could come in much more cheaply.

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DHagar
DHagar
12/14/2017 5:22:28 PM
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Re: A lot more applications than just TV
@JohnBarnes, great insight.  I would agree that we have not recognized the developments that have occurred since the 90's and what changes are needed to keep the internet viable and the incubator for promising developments.

In following your line of thought, one could then define this as Internet 2.0?

 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/18/2017 2:32:33 PM
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Re: A lot more applications than just TV
DHagar,

I don't really think there's an Internet 2.0 (or 3.0 or 7.17 or whatever); I think we just live in an age when the internet is possible, and being provided through a wide variety of possible technical means. And the possible technical means are always expanding in variety, application, and bandwidth.  Space-based LEO with localized ground-level repeaters was more expensive and buggier than groundbased fiber at one time; SmartBEAM is a long  step toward making it possible to close that gap. And if the technical possibilities are there, well, "the internet perceives censorship as damage and routes around it."  Not just political censorship, but, for example, the restriction of content to those who have paid for it, or have clearances from some authority, or own the relevant IP.  Individual services and networks may be able to set some boundaries and restrict some content, but the internet as a whole is, I think, already largely beyond human control (unless a highly improbable global totalitarian state were somehow to develop; in which case, if it relied on the internet as it would probably have to do, it would have a real tough time staying totalitarian).

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DHagar
DHagar
12/18/2017 6:44:34 PM
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Re: A lot more applications than just TV
@JohnBarnes, I agree.  That is because it is a network versus a product. 

Don't you believe this builds a case for open systems and platforms to support them, as being the best model for sustainability and the future?

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/30/2017 11:30:39 PM
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Platinum
Re: A lot more applications than just TV
DHagar,

I guess I would have to agree that it builds the case -- but since the case is already won, and open systems are the only real victor (have you seen anyone arguing "Next decade we get everything back into proprietary boxes?"), I think it's more an implication than a vindication!

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DHagar
DHagar
1/3/2018 7:03:26 PM
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Re: A lot more applications than just TV
@JohnBarnes, very true!  But the ability to execute and develop the full value of the open systems is yet to become prevalent.  It remains aspiration more than reality?  Because to operate in the new environment is a different strategy with different tactics.  That learning curve is still going on.

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freehe
freehe
12/25/2017 11:37:20 AM
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Viewers
I did not know that Tricolor TV is one of the largest pay-TV providers in the world. Being able to service 12 million households or 40 million people is huge. It seems like Russia is doing great things.

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freehe
freehe
12/25/2017 11:46:17 AM
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Platinum
Problems
The article states that SMARTBEAM can reduce buffering which is a huge pain for customers and offload congestion would be great. Allowing it to provide service beyond networks is a plus. Being able to view high quality content anytime anywhere is awesome. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
12/26/2017 8:13:14 AM
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Platinum
Re: Problems
@freehe - I completely agree! SMARTBEAM sounds like an amazing concept that will help a fair percentage of users. We are currently in the process of moving to a more rural location and I am extremely concerned about the connectivity we'll have. We cut the cord 4 years ago and I'm extremely reluctant to go back. But I have no idea how we would manage without streaming. As horrible as it sounds. 

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afwriter
afwriter
12/28/2017 12:37:23 AM
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Re: Problems
@eliabethv that sounds like a precarious position to be in. Hopefully, everything works out for you. Do you know if you will have options in providers where you're going. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
12/28/2017 9:17:17 AM
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Platinum
Re: Problems
@afwriter - I know there is CenturyLink available in the area but I don't like CenturyLink. It's And another company called TDS, which I hear is broadband, but I'm waiting to hear how many MBPS I can get. Because if it's only 60, I'm going to worry. And I know it won't be ready for another month or two, which could be dicey since we are supposed to move in about a month. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how things pan out.

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afwriter
afwriter
12/28/2017 2:03:41 PM
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Re: Problems
@Elizabethv I'm sorry to hear that. I echo your sentiments about Century Link and I don't know anything about TDS. Fingers crossed everything works out for you and you don't have to much of a headache in your transition. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
12/29/2017 8:12:29 AM
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Platinum
Re: Problems
@afwriter - Thanks! At least with ever-advancing technology there's hope that even if things don't start out on the best foot, they could progess and get better down the line.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
1/31/2018 3:43:17 PM
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Platinum
Re: Problems
Yes hopefully there is a way that you can still stay connected even from far away. It’s hard to be completely out of the loop, in terms of news and things like that.

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