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clrmoney
12/26/2017 10:06:19 AM
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AT&T Smart City Vision
They are already getting a little advanced with the city so with AT&T getting on board will be positive and negative in a way for me because they will be ways to snoop into peoples lives even more or make things easier in a way or both.
dcawrey
12/27/2017 12:49:52 PM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
There is immense potential for smart city technology to change the way we think about muncipalities. However, that won't arrive without some growing pains. There's a lot of stakeholders in massive projects like this, so I think a slow and steady pace is the smart path forward.
Ariella
12/28/2017 7:08:34 PM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
@dcawrey Indeed, and the more a city already has in place, the more pain there will be in having to replace it with the more advanced technology and new connected solutions.
batye
1/1/2018 2:10:26 AM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
@dcawrey yes, you are right I think it gonna be sometime before we will see it everywhere... but time will tell...
Ariella
12/28/2017 7:07:33 PM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
@clmoney you don't need smart cities to be snooped on. People already let cameras, sound recording, and tracking of location in by using their smartphone features and apps wherever they go, not to mention posting pics and videos on social media.
afwriter
12/28/2017 11:10:40 PM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
@Ariella you're right, but for some reason, it just seems so much more nefarious when you think about not being able to go anywhere or do anything without someone listening and watching. Much like (most) political arguments there is no right or wrong answer here it is all personal ideology. Also, it's easy to lie to ourselves out of convenience, we tell ourselves nothing bad could happen with our smartphone because we simply don't want to give them up.
Ariella
12/29/2017 8:07:57 AM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
@afwriter I get that. But I also know that in some cities -- like London -- you're likely on CC TV almost anywhere you go. Some parts of NYC are also covered by cameras. What about the fact, though, that people keep voice-activated devices in their homes and on their person? Those things can pick up whatever you say, and your smartphone can practically tell your whole life story.
afwriter
12/29/2017 9:38:06 AM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
and I'm terrible about this because I love my Amazon Echo and my smartphone is always in my hand. Still, if I found out I was being listened too at a crosswalk It'd infuriate me. I guess it's pretty hypocritical.
Ariella
12/29/2017 11:24:43 AM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
@afwriter following your movements throughout the day gives a much more holistic picture of you and your habits than just picking you up occasionally at a crosswalk. In fact, to make the data meaningful, it really has to pick up on what you do on a regular basis.
Shaunn
12/29/2017 8:09:37 PM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
I'm with @afwriter on this one. It's still a little spooky, being listened to at a cross walk for instance; nothing nafarious from the creators, but once the precedent is set, what could come next from somewhere else? And it doesn't help that FirstNet is a network, clouds are in the sky...SkyNet!
batye
1/1/2018 2:07:54 AM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
@afwriter I would say we lving in new reality where nothing private or hidden anymore... only what we could think and keep in our mind :)... but I did see technology in Russian hospital where by the way you reply to set to of the answers Computer could predict what you are thinking about, your nationality and prbability of you having cancer... around 75-79% and it was in 1999... now 2018... think how this technology got developed and used by Mr. Putin... against the west and our way of life...
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@Bayte: There is nothing per se wrong with this reality--the question is how we should harness it. The idea that somehow, for instance, Watson has the intelligence to trouble shoot illness is a good thing--but as all know, I am fearful that we can lose control. Our challenge is not to do as we become digitized. As for privacy, we lost that long ago--didn't we?
batye
1/2/2018 12:04:57 AM
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@mpouraryan privacy is things of old forgoten past in my books... the way I see it to keep control on is to live off the grid like some of my friends in the farm lands or my native friends in reservation land...
mpouraryan
1/2/2018 11:06:40 PM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts--I am not sure what you're referring--if you're implying that we have some control--no question--and we have to continue to be vigliant.
batye
1/4/2018 2:41:20 AM
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@mpouraryan yes, I would say anywhere we go today online or offline we do live digital trace what ever we like it or not we have no control over it... as Cash no longer King... and every data have it value we could be analysed and our behavier could be predicted in accordance with our spendsing pattern and what we buy... and whom controling/sorting/preducting and selling our data/info... we do have control only then we paying cash refusing provide email and postal code at POS and new put our info to collect store points or promotions... here is old example - http://www.businessinsider.com/the-incredible-story-of-how-target-exposed-a-teen-girls-pregnancy-2012-2
Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
Thanks for taking the time to clarilfy your thoughts--this is not "necessarily" a bad thing as for instance I want to be prompted to think about ideas--but remember, we're in control and we have to make sure we make the right choices--as long as I said under separate cover we remember that.
batye
1/4/2018 6:42:52 PM
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@mpouraryan yes, but I look at life simple way you never know it right you could only hope you made right choices - only at the end of the road when you look back you know if you did it right... but it road :) road it a choice by itself :)
Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
..As long as we remember we're in control--and never ever give in and be willing to transform as we're witness to transformation--that's the key lesson from 2017.
batye
1/4/2018 9:12:50 PM
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@mpouraryan life is a process :) life in IT it never endng changing process while you learn it :)
Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
If and onl if we embrace it in a way that makes us understand and engage in a way that is vital for final transformation.
batye
1/7/2018 8:54:42 PM
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@mpouraryan for me key is understanding it - the way I see as when you understand you know it and it better this way...
mpouraryan
1/7/2018 10:04:29 PM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
@Bayte: Thanks for your thoughts on it--can you expand on what you mean by understanding? As I look forward to your thoughts on it, please note that as we transform, things are becoming a lot easier in every respect because no one "thinks" or "cares" about the backend as long as they achieve what they desire (whether it is "one click shopping " (Amazon) etc.
dlr5288
1/31/2018 3:39:43 PM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
Good points! It’s important to fully understand what we’re putting out into the world. Not only for the consumers, but if something was to go wrong we have to understand how to fix it.
batye
2/1/2018 1:25:22 AM
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@dlr5288 in my books we must be responsible what we are leaving behind to our kids... as our life is too short the way I see it...
dlr5288
2/27/2018 12:33:10 PM
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That’s super true and important. We have to remember that one day we’ll be gone and the things and advances we leave behind will be in our children’s hands.
batye
3/1/2018 1:18:17 AM
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@dlr5288 in reality on global scale we are only exist in short space and time on this planet and it important to know what we leave behind for the future generations... - the way I see it...
dlr5288
3/28/2018 4:52:23 PM
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Great point. I would want to leave behind a good world to my children. It’s great to have all these new technologies at our fingertips (and most definitely technologies will become more and more advanced once I’m gone) but I would like to leave my children the best I could.
batye
4/2/2018 11:34:01 PM
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@dlr5288 yes, thank you, for my GodKids I teach them to never stop learning and if organizers permits I take them with me to attend parts of new technology presentation and seminars... as to foster thirst for knowledge and education... but I do also teach them life is short try to learn to become a better person and live better way...
dlr5288
4/30/2018 12:19:41 PM
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Yeah excellent point! I just want to leave a life behind that my future family is proud of. And of course for them to grow into good people.
faryl
12/31/2017 8:37:24 PM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
I’m super-paranoid about privacy (haven’t been able to bring myself to get an echo yet!) but as local street crime has been increasing lately, I’m finding myself wishing cc tv was used here too.
There used to be a marijuana dispensary on my block. It made me feel safer because they had security cameras capturing all the activity on the sidewalk out front (and they had an business interest in keeping loiterers from hanging around outside).
I’m not naive enough to believe that as long as you’re not doing anything wrong, you don’t need to worry - but I’m reaching the point of being glad to sacrifice more privacy for the peace of mind of not worrying about vandals breaking my car window at night or feeling safe when I walk down the street.
batye
1/1/2018 2:09:14 AM
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@Ariella I see video survilance as positive way of security and hope my rural city in Canada have it one day security cameras everywhere...
Ariella
1/1/2018 12:00:15 PM
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Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
@batye If it follows the example set by London and other British cities, you may see that in Canada, though I don't know if even in the UK it extends to all the rural areas.
batye
1/1/2018 2:48:10 PM
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@Ariella from what I know about UK as per my friend saying, whom spend 20 years as a Bobby in 80's not all rural area in UK have even phone linesand/or hydro at his time and many relay on CB and short wave radios and wind electro generators... maybe now it got changed but whom knows....
Ariella
1/1/2018 3:12:05 PM
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@batye I know they're very big on CCTV there, and have it over many roads, but I doubt they can extend it to cover every single stretch in the country -- at least for now.
batye
1/1/2018 3:34:22 PM
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@Ariella yes, in Canada we accepting the same idea but it taking too dam long to get on all big roads... as for me road survilance = better security...
Re: AT&T Smart City Vision
<<AT&T is taking on a major part in advancing the First Responder Network Authority under the name FirstNet. This is set out to be the first high-speed, nationwide wireless broadband network dedicated to public safety. AT&T was selected to build and manage the network and is also is also putting in a $40 billion investment over the life of the project, while the government is to put in $6.5 billion over the first five years. That will drive a lot of smart city use cases.>> I have been following the progress of this project for four years now. It was conceived because of the need of reliable bandwidth that a dedicated network can ensure. Now that 5G is on the scene with its enormous bandwidth, what is the relevance of this project?
afwriter
12/28/2017 12:27:21 AM
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I can do without the drones
For the most part, I am all for smart cities but I don't like the ideas of drones working on utility lines. It's not that I don't think they would work, I think they will easily replace the non-descript FBI surveillance van parked across the street.
Ariella
12/28/2017 7:09:38 PM
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<I think they will easily replace the non-descript FBI surveillance van parked across the street. >
@afwriter while that is a possibility, there's nothing to stop drones doing that even without helping do work at heights.
faryl
12/31/2017 8:26:18 PM
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I’m convinced those have already been replaced by amazon delivery vans. No one ever seems to pay attention to them & they’re everywhere!
afwriter
12/28/2017 12:33:18 AM
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FirstNet
I like the idea of the Firstnet initiative and all of the benefits it could provide. My only worry is that we would become too dependent on the system and there are a handful of scenarios where the first responders' system could be wiped out if there was a total broadband failure. That being said, for emergencies like the terrible hurricanes we experienced earlier this year, this may be a life-saving program.
Ariella
12/28/2017 7:12:24 PM
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<I like the idea of the Firstnet initiative and all of the benefits it could provide. My only worry is that we would become too dependent on the system and there are a handful of scenarios where the first responders' system could be wiped out if there was a total broadband failure>
@afwriter My understanding is that it would be in additon to whatever traditional channels of communication are already in place. in other words, if the system should fail for some reason, they would still be able to use whatever they use now.
afwriter
12/28/2017 10:57:13 PM
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Re: FirstNet
@Ariella Thanks for the clarification. I guess at the end of the day nothing beats the old ham radio.
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