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clrmoney
clrmoney
1/23/2018 9:12:54 AM
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5G Fiber Race
5G may a challenge to some who are new to it and it will be of great use of speed and data quality for products and services. The more they have to offer for the more opportunities meaning for pay.

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
1/23/2018 9:01:32 PM
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Re: 5G Fiber Race
The idea that 5G is a duopoly flies in the face of facts. For sure, more fiber will be needed and that is expensive. For sure, the spectrum is scarce and the big players have it in abundance. But 5G is not about the infrastructure. It is about innovation which will come mainly from MVNOs and software vendors who will lease fiber or the spectrum to provide unique services. The innovation will be aided by microservices. 

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freehe
freehe
1/23/2018 10:14:04 PM
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Re: 5G Fiber Race
@Kishore Jethanandani. Good points. However, I suspect current infrastructure will have to be modified slightly to accomodate for 5G but you are correct that new infrastructures will not have to be created to support 5G. Existing infrastructures and technologies can be used to implement 5G.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
1/23/2018 11:47:56 PM
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Re: 5G Fiber Race
@Kishore: But the MVNOs have their own interests at heart, remember.

Also from my discussion with Jennifer Fritzsche, who aptly pointed out that Verizon is Comcast's MVNO partner (indeed, Comcast's Xfinity Mobile service reportedly runs over VZ's network): "Verizon's first stated goal of 5G is going right after [Comcast's] broadband footprint. So inevitably, if you're [Comcast CEO] Brian Roberts, you're saying, 'Do I want a partner that's going after my throat?'"

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
1/24/2018 12:06:39 AM
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Re: 5G Fiber Race
<<'Do I want a partner that's going after my throat?'">> I suspect not but I am not sure. Comcast's interest is in expanding its mobile service without investing in a nation-wide infrastructure which Verizon already has. What it does not have is the last mile broadband reach. So I would check my facts about their respective strategies.

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
1/24/2018 12:17:22 AM
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Re: 5G Fiber Race
Is this the alliance you are alluding to? 

 

http://www.telecompetitor.com/moffett-comcast-verizon-mvno-plans-could-be-good-for-both-companies/

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Duh!
Duh!
1/25/2018 11:23:44 AM
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Re: 5G Fiber Race
Big corporations like Verizon and the Comcast are very good at compartmentalizing. They compete in some markets and cooperate in others. I doubt that Roberts loses much sleep over that, except when two of his lines-of-business are bickering about it in his office.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
1/31/2018 12:44:03 PM
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Re: 5G Fiber Race
I agree! I think they both really focus on the big picture and what things will move them forward in the future.

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freehe
freehe
1/23/2018 10:12:11 PM
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5G Race
There are two races for 5G. The race competition among countries globally and the race among U.S. companies to be the first to implement 5G. 5G has received a lot of hype but time will tell its true benefits and when it will actually be implemented.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
1/23/2018 11:43:31 PM
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Re: 5G Race
@freehe: The competition/race is pretty fierce in Europe, too.

On that note, Deutsche Telekom celebrated the first -- technically speaking -- 5G connection in partnership with Huawei late last year. But it seems that even DT people don't seem to take that too much to heart in terms of how much that means for the market. (My interpretation/speculation, anyway.)

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
1/24/2018 1:20:31 AM
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Re: 5G Race
@Joe Stanganelli: I did an interview with them and reported it in my article on 5G. You are referring to their pilot programs in Berlin and Hamburg port. They are meant to test the economic viability of 5G which is challenging because of the extra investment at the edge.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/24/2018 5:41:41 PM
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Fragmented markets
I don't think consumers will view 5G as a monolithic service. It will be highly fragmented. Users won't be able to say they have 5G without specifying which flavor they have. Maybe someday, but not in the near future. Perhaps the 5G branding will break up into various kinds of 5G soon? I wouldn't be surprised to see 5G services re-named specifically to target certain markets.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/24/2018 6:55:06 PM
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Re: Fragmented markets
As I was reflecting upon the discourse here, my mind drifted to Palestine as I reviewed reporting about how 3G has come to Palestine after pressure from the United States.   How, somehow, we seem to forget where we've been and make sure we constantly press for the positive.   Whether that's feasible or not is another question. as I hope all enjoy this as I have been catching #Davos2018 session with great fascinat9ion--a must listen for all of us constantly reflecting and assessing transformation:

https://www.weforum.org/events/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2018/sessions/an-insight-an-idea-with-sundar-pichai

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Michelle
Michelle
1/28/2018 7:58:24 PM
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Re: Fragmented markets
That's a very interesting perspective. I wonder if consumers will pay much attention to 5G at all. Do you think consumer expectations will match the technology's capability?

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afwriter
afwriter
1/28/2018 10:33:10 PM
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Re: Fragmented markets
It is my opinion that it will take a while for the average Joe to realize the benefits of 5G even if they are experiencing them. For the most part I don't think that 5G will get attention on the consumer level early on. 

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Michelle
Michelle
1/29/2018 8:39:24 PM
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Re: Fragmented markets
Do you know of any non-tech people that talk about cell networks? I'm thinking back to the hype about 4G LTE. I have never spoken to any regular person (not working in tech) about network technology...have you?

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afwriter
afwriter
1/29/2018 10:12:41 PM
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Re: Fragmented markets
I think there was a little buzz at that time because there was some confusion as we went from 3G to 4G to LTE and people were curious about what LTE was. I think I remember a friend of mine who I trusted at this stuff at the time tell me that LTE was going to cost soooo much more.  

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/2/2018 1:40:04 PM
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Re: Fragmented markets
Few people know what LTE is or does or how it's related to 4G wireless. It's just a mysterious acronym near the signal strength bars at the top of your phone that tells you whether or not you can stream video..... 

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batye
batye
2/3/2018 1:10:14 AM
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Re: Fragmented markets
@mhhf1ve  good point as this days for users they do not have to know the technology or uderstanding to use... the bottom line it simple will you able to watch video or not... 

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Michelle
Michelle
2/3/2018 5:08:43 PM
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Re: Fragmented markets
So really, any specification that shows up on a screen will be accepted as ok so long as the video plays! I hadn't thought of that as an indicator of speed, but it makes good sense. I see 3G in some buildings and I cannot play video ;)

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batye
batye
2/5/2018 3:14:15 AM
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Re: Fragmented markets
@Michelle I think it also related how video get encoded as in some cases even with good speed you must have a correct player what support video stream speed and encoding... 

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
1/29/2018 10:19:18 PM
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Re: Fragmented markets
@Michelle: I suspect that the consumer-level of understanding -- marketing-driven, to be sure -- will amount to not much more than the fact that it's a whole G higher.

Which, to be fair, is about representative of the understanding of a lot of industry pundits, too. ;)

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Michelle
Michelle
1/30/2018 1:51:34 PM
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Re: Fragmented markets
Haha.

The version number is higher, therefore the end product is improved. Got it!

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