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clrmoney
2/1/2018 1:24:23 PM
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5G Across the Globe
5G is already has some positive outcome when it comes to businesses so with them going international will be great for many and as well as customers. This will be great what they have like Cloud which is networking and and connecting with many others etc.
mhhf1ve
2/1/2018 2:17:27 PM
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Clean... Beautiful.. 5G
> "the Trump administration is reportedly considering the buildout of a nationalized 5G network to accelerate progress in the States and protect against cybercriminals..."
Municipal fiber networks aren't crazy, but a nationalized 5G network sounds a bit outlandish. How would a national 5G network even work? Would the US govt take back the wireless spectrum it auctioned off already?
vnewman
2/1/2018 4:20:09 PM
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This article in Fortune provides a detailed explanation of The administrations proposal, http://fortune.com/2018/01/30/national-security-council-nationalized-5g-proposal/
Anonymity would not be allowed - one of the measure designed to protect against Chinese cyberattacks.
mhhf1ve
2/2/2018 12:04:08 PM
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Re: Clean... Beautiful.. 5G
> "Anonymity would not be allowed..."
Ha! Good luck on that. They'd have to change the whole foundation of the internet to eliminate anonymity. And what would that even mean to do so? It wouldn't necessarily improve security. We know who all the 9/11 terrorists in the airplanes were -- and that didn't do anything to prevent it. Anonymity is something that can be both good and bad. And it's not something that we should waste resources trying to eliminate completely, IMO.
batye
2/2/2018 11:30:17 PM
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Re: Clean... Beautiful.. 5G
@vnewman interesting reading thanks for the link... to trust it I have to see it... as until it done and available to consumers...
DHagar
2/1/2018 6:02:32 PM
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Re: Clean... Beautiful.. 5G
@mhhf1ve, I am with you on this! It sounds more like an aspirational goal than a strategic one. The President may like that outcome but the market will not work that way, as we know. And your point about the recent steps to auction off are a great example of how the train is already moving down the tracks, picking up the tracks and redirecting them now would not be easy. Just look at the turmoil still under way with net neutrality?
mhhf1ve
2/2/2018 12:11:51 PM
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Re: Clean... Beautiful.. 5G
There are a lot of outlandish proposals.. (ahem, there's one out there about our southern neighbor paying for an impractical non-fence barrier..)
Perhaps there are some good ideas in the proposal -- and I'm surprised that Trump's base isn't shocked at "nationalizing" things. (Though I suppose it's harder to tie healthcare to national security...) If the Obama administration had a leaked proposal like this -- I can just imagine the backlash of arguments against it.
DHagar
2/2/2018 4:31:01 PM
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Re: Clean... Beautiful.. 5G
@mhhf1ve, exactly! Without a cohesive strategy this could open pandora's box! And you are correct about the motivations that would be attributed to such a proposal in the past.
That is why there needs to be a comprehensive "design" (i.e., strategy) that will guide the development and ensure the steps we take are steps forward not back.
batye
2/2/2018 11:27:05 PM
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Re: Clean... Beautiful.. 5G
@DHagar yes you are right but this days many Co. trying to sell hot air while steping backwards instead of going forward... sad reality...
DHagar
2/5/2018 5:06:03 PM
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Re: Clean... Beautiful.. 5G
@batye, you are very correct. We still are attracted to "hype", which gives the super marketers an advantage. We have not developed the sophisticated discernment with the new technologies to distinguish those who can provide real deliverables versus those who provide vaporware!
batye
2/6/2018 3:50:31 AM
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@DHagar the sad reality in Canada we spend too much money as taxpayers on Co's hot air/lip service... and gov. and they corporate friends get away with it...
DHagar
2/6/2018 6:46:06 PM
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Re: Clean... Beautiful.. 5G
@batye, good analysis! That is the inherent problem with government making the decisions - it tends to be "how" I want to spend the dollars, as opposed to who has the need and how can I deliver to provide needed services that customers will pay for.
afwriter
2/2/2018 4:35:39 PM
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Re: Clean... Beautiful.. 5G
I would think that this is just more chest pounding from a leader who speaks first and thinks second, if at all. I haven't read the proposal but just on the surface, this seems infeasible. Plus, wouldn't this take a lot of taxpayer money not just to initiate, but to continually oversee? Possibly even a whole new agency?
mhhf1ve
2/2/2018 5:28:41 PM
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Re: Clean... Beautiful.. 5G
Well, I don't think this proposal is really the work of our so-called POTUS. It's from his advisors -- who are just naive and inexperienced in government roles. But I do find it surprising that "nationalizing" 5G wouldn't be something that they would normally call "socialist" or something along those lines. But this administration is full of contradictions, so perhaps nothing should be surprising anymore -- and the cognitive dissonance should stop alarming anyone.
batye
2/2/2018 11:50:14 PM
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Re: Clean... Beautiful.. 5G
@mhhf1ve I would say it depends how you look at this problem as I see it 5G is here to stay... but it always important to know - how it will end up at the end and players and paries involved...
Re: Clean... Beautiful.. 5G
@afwriter - I suspect you're correct, this is nothing more than chest pounding to get his name out into the media again. People will criticize his actions, he'll send out a tweet, cue pundit shows mocking him. It's a never ending story. Similar to 5G where everyone races to be the first to release 5G. But in the end, people who have a reliable service are unlikely to leave their current carrier for new technology that more often than not is filled with bugs that will need to be worked out.
mhhf1ve
2/2/2018 5:48:20 PM
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One network to rule them all...
A single network that's forced to share isn't actually a crazy idea -- I think the UK's Ofcom regulates its fiber network? Wireless is, however, a completely different beast. The spectrum licenses have largely been auctioned already, so it's unclear how the govt would even start to build a 5G network without taking some spectrum back somehow?
afwriter
2/2/2018 10:16:03 PM
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Re: One network to rule them all...
@mhhf1ve maybe stretching the definition of eminent domain?
batye
2/3/2018 1:11:56 AM
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@afwriter or create a new name for it :)
batye
2/2/2018 11:36:43 PM
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@mhhf1ve I do not know but for me single network for the small country would make sense from the price point of view...
mhhf1ve
2/2/2018 11:44:21 PM
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> "a single network for the small country would make sense from the price point of view."
Yah, a small country doesn't need to have that many competing networks -- there's a loss of efficiency in the market. But for the US, it would be monopolistic to have only one wireless network....
batye
2/2/2018 11:57:18 PM
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@mhhf1ve yes for USA it will be a very big problem... like Walmart pushing all the small Ma&Pa stores to close...
srufolo1
2/3/2018 12:12:02 AM
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I'm not even going to read the article about Trump's proposal for a so-called "nationalized 5G network" without getting the feeling that it's a bad idea -- a very, very bad idea.
batye
2/3/2018 5:47:13 AM
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@srufolo1 it depends how you look at this but US presiddent it more showman this days than anything else like Kardashian...
srufolo1
2/3/2018 11:13:42 AM
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@batye Yep. Where is the "Great Wall" he's building? Haven't seen any sign of it. Oh yeah, and Mexico is footing the bill for it.
batye
2/3/2018 11:43:36 PM
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@srufolo1 like I said before he is very smart showman but only later we could find his end game...
srufolo1
2/6/2018 9:31:37 AM
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@batye Yes, quite the showman. At the State of the Union address, there seemed to be more applause than talk about the state of the union. He led the attendants' responses like a conductor of an orchestra. He's Mussolini like in his bravado and narcissistic need for approval, praise and admiration.
batye
2/6/2018 12:23:36 PM
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@srufolo1 for me he is very smart man, but have a bit too much of crazy ideas... or his advisors give him bad intel...
DHagar
2/6/2018 6:49:27 PM
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@srufolo1 - good observation! I believe there were Stop for Applause notes all over the speech. It might have been more effective to let the applause be more natural? Or maybe it would not have been sufficient?
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Without getting too political, it is indeed challenging times we have to contend with. The problem, though, is that such is distracting from the profound problems--including for instance research in transformational technologies that the Government has been at the forefront of.
srufolo1
2/3/2018 12:18:31 AM
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Huawei is showing its 5G prowess in many countries. I particularly like what it's doing with Vodafone in Italy: "In Milan, Vodafone's Italian operator is offering $12 million over the next four years to encourage 5G innovation around technologies like robotics, augmented and virtual reality and across industry verticals."
DHagar
2/5/2018 5:08:31 PM
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@srufolo1, I share your admiration and pick of Huawei as a true leader in telecoms and a promising breakout system with 5G. I believe they have a clear strategic vision, the leadership, and the capability to deliver on these promises and set the stage for others to follow.
srufolo1
2/6/2018 9:28:25 AM
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@DHagar Yes, Huawei truly seems to be at the forefront of 5G technology as you can see all those countries are collaborating with it. Can't wait to see what this year holds for 5G.
DHagar
2/6/2018 6:48:01 PM
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@srufolo1, yes, it will be interesting to watch. I think the Olympics may provide a clue, along with the advancement and market growth with Huawei and other leaders. I believe China may prove to be a leader!
srufolo1
2/6/2018 1:43:07 PM
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@DHagar It's also a no wonder why Huawei is on the World's 50 Most Innovative Companies at number 20 with 1,616 patents granted last year. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/the-worlds-50-most-innovative-companies/ss-BBIdk6g?ocid=spartandhp#image=32
DHagar
2/6/2018 6:51:25 PM
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@srufolo1, great points! They definitely have the strategic vision and apparent leadership to execute that vision. That should enable them to move into the lead and create the models and networks to keep them as leaders with 5G.
They clearly "understand" the markets!
srufolo1
2/7/2018 1:55:50 PM
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@DHagar Huawei has clearly had its ups and downs, but now it definitely is a company to be admired and respected, as it had the capacity to evolve. Other countries look toward Huawei for its expertise.
DHagar
2/7/2018 6:16:48 PM
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@srufolo1, very true - that's what makes a good company - one that can weather, take risks, learn, and grow. A mark of a progressive company now - resilience!
They also have their challenges with the US rulings and pressure on US companies doing business with them - another test!
freehe
2/22/2018 9:27:30 PM
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5G Globally
Huawei and Telefónica complete a proof of concept test of 5G radio for assisted driving. This is great. It will help reduce accidents and hopefully stop aggressive drivers on the road. Assisted driving will also be helpful for the elderly and those with vision impairment.
freehe
2/22/2018 9:27:52 PM
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Telfonica
Their asssisted driving features will include remote driving and additional sensors. Telfonica is one of the top telephone and mobile network providers.
freehe
2/22/2018 9:32:01 PM
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Computers
Intel is partnering with top computer and software companies - HP, Dell and Lenovo. By the end of 2019, the partnership will provide 5g connectivity in PCs. The goal is to provide 5G in time for Christmas holiday shopping season.
Intel will compbine their processors with XMM 8060 5G modems to provide data connectivity to consumers.
This will allow the partner to tap into a new market base of consumers who never used 2G, 3G or 4G and those are interested in 5G and those who are excited about using 5G.
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