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Ariella
Ariella
2/3/2016 8:42:15 AM
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Re: How much of a monopoly on weather data is there?
@mhhf1ve I once heard a presentation by a meterologis at a science museum (I think it was at the New York Hall of Science). Anyway, the sources for data prediction are mostly the same for all meterologists, as they draw on the same satellite images. But there is always room for interpretation and spin on the likelihood of something hitting your area based when it currently is and the direction indicated by its movement.  We think the key thing is always getting the future right, but, actually forensics on weather is actually a thing. I just found this out when doing a search on meteorologists now. Forensic meterology is one of the services Accuweather provides as presented here: http://www.accuweather.com/adc2004/pub/products_services/fsexperts_all.asp?ex=joe

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batye
batye
2/3/2016 4:03:34 AM
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Re: weather
@daringfireball  same on my end I could not agree more... as it important...

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daringfireball
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2/3/2016 1:42:55 AM
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Re: weather
In addition, the deal will also gives IBM forecasting tools, cloud platform, data expertise and more touch points, which include mobile apps, websites, flight data and information products.

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daringfireball
daringfireball
2/3/2016 1:41:38 AM
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@Ariella I agree with you, The Weather Company's cloud-based data platform, which currently powers the fourth most-used mobile app daily in the United States and handles 26 billion inquiries each day, will allow IBM to collect an even larger amount and higher velocity of data sets, store them, analyzed them and in turn distribute them and empower richer and deeper insights across the Watson platform. The company's sophisticated models analyze data from three billion weather forecast reference points, more than 40 million smartphones and 50,000 airplane flights per day, allowing it to offer a broad range of data-driven services to more than 5000 clients in the media, aviation, energy, insurance and government industries. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/2/2016 9:02:08 PM
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Re: weather
> "One of the applications of this is for telematics for drivers"

Interesting.. Mapping data combined with weather data could become another essential service for autonomous cars... and for services like Uber/Lyft (to adjust surge pricing).

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/2/2016 8:59:49 PM
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How much of a monopoly on weather data is there?
This deal actually makes me question how strategic weather data can be... since a large company like Google that creates its own mapping data, could also probably produce its own weather data if it really wanted to? 

And with mobile phones starting to include barometers and temp gauges -- it might be "easy enough" to crowdsource certain weather data from smartphone users, say the way Waze does traffic data.

I suppose there is some reputation and skill involved in making weather predictions, but if Google can get an algorithm to beat the best human Go players, I'd imagine they could come up with a pretty decent robot weather forecaster, too.

Perhaps Watson is going to be trained on all the weather data to become a much better automated weather forecaster? (Putting local news station weather people out of jobs! Who will tell us the weather at 10:25pm and try to rescue pets from shelters?)

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/2/2016 8:51:43 PM
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IBM and Apple are closer now, too
Apple switched away from using Yahoo for its weather data in iOS about a year or so ago... and started to get it straight from weather.com, instead of going through Yahoo as a middleman. But now Apple can get it from their partner in business, IBM. I'm starting to wonder how much IBM and Apple will start to overlap -- or if they'll stay complementary and divide up the business and consumer markets neatly somehow?

I also wonder where Google gets its weather data from now... 

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Ariella
Ariella
2/2/2016 3:47:39 PM
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Re: weather
As the snow fell over the weekend a couple of weeks ago in our area, the kids got gypped of their snow day. However, even though the college was open, the instructor for the winter session class set up the final for the following Monday online because she realized that some people would have trouble making it in. The LIRR, for example, failed to restore service for the morning rush hour despite all its promises. But that's not just due to weather but to the way it set about snow removal and service restoration. Some stations did have service, while others just had people waiting out in the cold from 5 AM until they gave up and went home.

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Mike Robuck
Mike Robuck
2/2/2016 2:47:22 PM
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Re: weather
Ariella, I hadn't heard of Octo Telematics until now. Some people can't get enough weather-related info. We received more than a foot of snow over the weekend, and even our kids were checking weather apps, sites and social media in the hopes that school would be canceled. (It wasn't.) 

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Ariella
Ariella
2/2/2016 1:18:07 PM
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One of th applications of this is for telematics for drivers. Octo Telematics is one of the companies making use of IBM's harnessing weather data, applying that information to a driver scoring app. 

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