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Ariella
Ariella
8/10/2016 8:32:53 AM
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Re: this is it
@vnewman what all these ad designers fail to get is that forcing people to see something they have no interest in will not make them want to buy the featured product. It does the opposite of inspire goodwill.

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JohnBarnes
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8/10/2016 7:08:18 AM
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vnewman,

You're up against the same phenomenon that made "free" broadcast radio and TV what they became: you're not the consumer (the thing that does the buying), you're the product (the thing that is bought and sold; internet companies,Facebook even more so than others, are paid to assemble audiences in front of screens and then sell space on the screen. You have the same say in the matter as an apple in a bin at your local grocery store (remembering that the produce aisle's function is not so much that people like fresh fruits and vegetables -- fewer than half of shoppers ever buy them -- but they like to buy food in places where fresh fruits and vegetables are on display).

The apple might prefer to have been sprayed with a few less chemicals and coated with less wax, but it doesn't get a vote.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
8/10/2016 7:01:08 AM
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The problem is easily solved, if we stop worshipping the private sector
Much of the content on the internet -- and an unusually high fraction on Facebook -- is produced by users for free. And advertising is straight-up harmful in much of  its intent: it's about getting people to feel that they must/should buy things that they're already aware of and would not feel attracted enough to buy without the boosting. at the local/individual level, and about promoting and promulgating the idea that buying things (especially for irrational emotional cravings) is a positive good, at the societal level. (If you don't believe me, check with a parent whose kid has seen a lot of breakfast cereal commercials).

The obvious solution would be cheap public servers for the general staying-in-contact that people like the net for, for organizations to use to be in touch with their members, and for ordinary business purposes -- i.e. the kind of thing the Post Office was created to do, back when well-known socialist Ben Franklin proposed it. And such a scheme could easily be supported by a straight-up tax on advertising -- especially because in nearly all the market economies, advertising has been tax deductible for many years, so we already have long records going back decades to tell us what is really spent on advertising and thus make it hard to cheat.

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vnewman
vnewman
8/10/2016 1:13:31 AM
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Re: this is it
The ones that frustrate me the most are those that have an "x" to close the ad, but somehow the ad opens even when you've clicked it.  Or - the ads that seemingly don't have a close button until after it floats around on your screen for a certain period of time. 

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DHagar
DHagar
8/9/2016 7:52:18 PM
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@Ariella, here - here!  I am fully with you and Michelle.  It is an interference.

What I think is distasteful about Facebook is the tactics they are using as if it is OK for them to profit but not others.  If they would create a "options preference" and be consistent, I think they would get further.

Of course I am not a big Facebook fan anyway, so I am probably biased to be critical!  (That's not an ad)

 

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Ariella
Ariella
8/9/2016 4:25:10 PM
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@Michelle The ads are generally annoying and sometimes distracting. But the most annoying ads of all are the kind that cover the content you are really there for. 

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Michelle
Michelle
8/9/2016 3:06:02 PM
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this is it
I assume this means other content providers will follow suit. I enjoy the ad-free experience. There are so many ads all over the place these days, it's nice to have fewer in the browser. I guess those days are over...

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