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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
10/6/2016 1:46:00 PM
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Ah. It's interesting that they say Yahoo adapted a spam filter... So now I'm wondering if spam filters are going to be more carefully scrutinized in the future? Will privacy regulations prevent spam filters from getting better or innovating...? Hmmm.

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Ariella
Ariella
10/6/2016 1:09:31 PM
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@mhhf1ve The NYT has more details on this here: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/technology/yahoo-email-tech-companies-government-investigations.html So it's another government order at work. That's actually precisely what led to the EU to find Safe Harbour insuffiicent protection for its citizens privacy and push for something it hoped would work better.

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
10/6/2016 12:50:27 PM
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I would think the window of time between Safe Harbor and Privacy Shield would default to the most stringent rules? So.. I doubt Yahoo would try to wiggle its way into that area.

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Ariella
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10/6/2016 12:26:31 PM
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@mhhf1ve that's possible, but before Privacy Shield, there was Safe Harbour, which had very similar regulations. I suppose a novel defense would be that this occurred in that window of time when Safe Harbour was invalidated and the new regulations were made official.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
10/6/2016 11:46:43 AM
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Thanks for the links. I wonder which rules Yahoo was abiding by while it scanned emails (although I think so far Yahoo hasn't admitted to doing so). 

> "The Commission adopted on 12 July 2016 its decision on the EU-U.S. Privacy Shield."

So Yahoo's scanning presumably happened before this EU-US Privacy Shield policy was adopted (and/or has since changed to abide by this policy). 

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Ariella
Ariella
10/6/2016 8:47:31 AM
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@mhhf1ve Any American company that says it complies with the regulations set by the EU-US Privacy Shield Framework would have to be aware of the rules and follow them. From the overview:

8.    Definitions:
  • a.    "Personal data" and "personal information" are data about an identified or identifiable individual that are within the scope of the Directive, received by an organization in the United States from the European Union, and recorded in any form.
  • b.    "Processing" of personal data means any operation or set of operations which is performed upon personal data, whether or not by automated means, such as collection, recording, organization, storage, adaptation or alteration, retrieval, consultation, use, disclosure or dissemination, and erasure or destruction.

 

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
10/5/2016 11:16:42 PM
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I'm not sure exactly how EU privacy rules are enforced upon US services. I assume lawsuits will decide what happens.

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Ariella
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10/5/2016 7:48:16 PM
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@mhhf1ve but if the US person is corresponding with a person in the EU, they could end up seeing the EU person's email if only in the course of the replies. And really the EU is very strict about this sort of thing. That doesn't mean you never can do it legally but that informed consent about the data collection has to be extended to the person affected.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
10/5/2016 6:50:43 PM
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Presumably, though, Yahoo is only scanning emails with US-based users? But who knows... 

Verizon (Yahoo's future owner) has likely done very similar things for phones and other internet services.... 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
10/5/2016 6:48:21 PM
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It doesn't surprise me that Yahoo either encrypts emails or scans them for keywords at the request of the govt... I just doubt either is very effective! 

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