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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/4/2017 2:41:50 PM
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Re: Networking
> "It's just that you have to be a lot more careful about hardware standards and the benefits just won't be as big."

I agree with you.. but maybe someday with FPGA chips in everything, we'll have a way to reprogram hardware on the fly and correct any hardware bugs with software as well....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field-programmable_gate_array

But hardware that can be re-configured with software could also be a nightmare if you can't even count on the hardware being consistent.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/4/2017 2:31:41 PM
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Re: Networking
mhhf1ve,

Standards have a different effect on software and hardware, don't they? A standard for open software means, if the standard is right, everyone stays intercompatible and everyone gets it right; if it's wrong, it means that everyone goes down the wrong road together and figures out what is the matter together when the software standard turns out wrong. The expected payoff from the potential success is large enough to far offset the expected cost of the potential failure.

But a standard for open hardware, if it is right, merely keeps as many players in the game as possible, and if it is wrong, destroys everyone who was undercapitalized on one experiment (rather than scattering the failures across several possibilities and generating more information).

So (I think) for a bad hardware standard you're looking at an expensive industry-wide disaster, but for a good one you're merely looking at preserving a competitive status quo.

I think you have to go to standards in either case, rather than laissez-faire or last-one-standing. It's just that you have to be a lot more careful about hardware standards and the benefits just won't be as big.

 

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/3/2017 6:42:12 PM
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Platinum
Re: Networking
> "It's started with software, but I believe it will end with hardware for sure."

Open source hardware projects are pretty interesting, but I'm a bit skeptical that they will have the same impact as open source software projects. The thing is.. hardware is much harder because the equipment needs to be physically constructed to prove its actual utility and to work out bugs. That takes many more resources than an open source software project, and it reduces the pool of developers who can even try to work on a hardware project. If an open source software developer makes some rookie mistakes, it can be quickly corrected (or not..) and no one really wastes their time. However, if an open source hardware project has a serious mistake, it could really waste a lot of time and resources -- and burn the reputation of using an open source hardware project's materials.

That said, though, open source hardware projects that have significant backing (like the support of Facebook and its datacenter testing) could really revolutionize certain aspects of hardware development. I just don't think it'll have the same impact as the Linux OS, for example.

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dchampagne70
dchampagne70
4/2/2017 8:28:40 PM
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Silver
Enterprise Cloud
I have to say open source networking has drawn my attention and I am curious to learn more.  The biggest sign to tell you is that it is a really good choice is that Microsoft is moving into open source. So if you know Microsoft is all the rest of the huge companies will move soon too. 

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batye
batye
4/2/2017 2:10:30 PM
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Platinum
Re: Open Enterprise cloud
@clrmoney same is on my end as visual learner I like to see charts instead of numbers ... but what ever works at the end it important...

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batye
batye
4/2/2017 2:08:39 PM
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Platinum
Re: Networking
@dcawrey I would say Microsoft started moving towards right direction but it not there yet... how I see it...

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clrmoney
clrmoney
3/31/2017 12:07:47 PM
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Platinum
Open Enterprise cloud
I like how they have the chart of the  open source entities like application layer/ operating services etc.  I think that whatever solutions work for them then I'm all for it.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
3/30/2017 6:17:07 PM
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Platinum
Networking
I'm really interested in this world of open source networking. While some believe this is not a great way to implement systems, I can't imagine this stuff not being adopted. 

When you see stalwarts like Microsoft moving into open source, I just feel everyone kind of knows the rest will follow. It's started with software, but I believe it will end with hardware for sure. 

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