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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/27/2017 10:58:07 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
ElizabethV,

Given what the Nuggets have been like of late, going for the food is an excellent approach.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/27/2017 10:20:05 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
@JohnBarnes - I am actually a huge Yankees fan. Though I guess it's a bit of a blow to my ego to admit to not being under 30. (But I'm only a few years older) Lol. Anyway, I'm a Yankees fan because my grandpa is a Yankees Fan and I grew up watching Yankees games with him. And, as is required of Yankees fan, I hate the Red Sox, with a passion. (You can't be one without the other.) I'll also watch a whole game, but only if the Yankees are playing. I was able to get free tickets to a few Nuggets games this last season, and my husband and I mostly just like going for the food. :-/ 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/27/2017 10:12:47 PM
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Re: Language?
@Adi, that's a fair argument. I suppose I wasn't initially considering income being as big a factor, but I suppose that makes sense. A friend of mine grew up in Africa (missionary family) and they learned French in school. But it was an embassy school, so I'm not sure how many native Africans have access to being able to learn French - or English, for that matter. 

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DHagar
DHagar
4/27/2017 7:13:12 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
@JohnBarnes, good examples.  Indeed this is following a new trend.  It actually parallels the declining knowledge in the news as well, and the decline in the public's subscriptions to newspapers and knowledgeable reporting.

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DHagar
DHagar
4/27/2017 7:11:18 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
@JohnBarnes, very true!  The value, and finer points of the game, are lost in the era of "reality TV", which doesn't take any knolwedge or skills.

One wonders if the future will continue to hold a place for the knowledgeable sports announcers?

Note:  Steph Curry is an excellent NBA player - good choice!

 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/26/2017 9:56:42 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
Second thought, come to think of it: watch any historical event newscast (lots of them available on YouTube nowadays) from before about 1965, and compare with one post 1990.  We tend to think of it as "dumbing down" but maybe it's actually television's response to decreasing viewing skill; people know less about how to get information out of the screen, so necessarily there's less information per minute.Maybe this issue is more important than sports ...

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/26/2017 9:52:38 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
DHagar,

One other thing that probably amplified the effect was that back when everyone watched what was on a home's one screen, sportscasters had to be knowledgeable enough not to overly irritate the more devoted (and knowledgeable) sports fans (themselves heavily educated by much more information-dense newspapers -- and alone in newspapers, sports pages assume the reader already knows a great deal and understands complex points). If a sportscaster said something dumb, Dad or Uncle Jack would blow up, maybe even call the station, definitely shred the sportscaster's authority in front of the family -- and there were thousands of Dads and Uncle Jacks in every city.

Nowadays, any "five hundred dollar haircut on top of a dollar-ninety-eight brain" can say almost any inane thing; millions of viewers won't know the difference and aren't in the company of anyone to educate them. So not surprisingly, sports get reduced to visual highlights; instead of a viewer learning to watch how teams defending against Steph Curry's three pointers are forced to spread their defense far too thin, they're encouraged to just be amazed at how far out he can it a three from. Instead of watching how the infield adjusts to each successive batter (something TV often doesn't even show), the viewer is encouraged to wait till there's a crack of the bat and a short explosion of motion. 

So it not only isolates the viewer from sources that might teach them about the sport, it actively encourages watching in a dumb sort of way.

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DHagar
DHagar
4/26/2017 6:34:05 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
@JohnBarnes, thank you - I like that - Hagar's Law!  I am also honored to be in the company of what is one of my favorite authors - Alvin Toffler!

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DHagar
DHagar
4/26/2017 6:32:35 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
@JohnBarnes, well that does make sense!    So they never learned all the intricacies of the game and have not become "hooked" game watchers!  That can also explain why as long as they know the score, they are satisfied.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/24/2017 7:40:07 PM
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Re: Any guesses about whether the orientation to sports is a smart or a risky move?
>>>times are truly different and we will make a big mistake if we don't understand that.

I nominate that as "Hagar's Law", the defining condition of life now and in the foreseeable future.

Perfectly seriously, by the way. Alvin Toffler said, and got paid (many times) to say, that the world became modern when most of the experience of still-living old people was irrelevant to the current situation; but I think your phrasing is both broader and more succinct than any of the various ways he said it.

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