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elizabethv
5/30/2017 4:58:57 PM
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Re: IOT threatens Smart Cities
@clrmoney - I think that's the most interesting part, a limited concern for security because it isn't profitable. I would think it would help with profit as a ride-along. But then maybe in general customers assume the security is built in, even when it really isn't.
dmendyk
5/30/2017 4:57:41 PM
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Re: Picking up a thread dear to my heart ...
Taken to a logical conclusion, the case can be made that "personal privacy" will cease to exist at some point. It's part of the dehumanizing effect of the digital age. I don't think most people will mind all that much. Individuality and independent thinking are hard.
elizabethv
5/30/2017 4:57:02 PM
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Re: Picking up a thread dear to my heart ...
@JohnBarnes - I guess where shampoo is concerned, I'm not too worried about companies piecing information about me together to target those kinds of ads. The possibility of having my insurance premiums sky-rocket however, that would really bother me. Make me pay extra in insurance because I visit sites for some random other brand, that would really upset me. In fact I'm sure I'd go insurance hunting at that point. I don't even like the idea of insurnace companies putting a little monitor in my car to potentially lower my rates (or raise them is the untold side of that story.) I'm not concerned about my driving, but I just don't like that much governance.
elizabethv
5/30/2017 4:53:14 PM
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Re: Picking up a thread dear to my heart ...
@dmendyk - I would imagine with more and more technology, people will start to let their guards down, where privacy is concerned. We're already so comfortable sharing details of our every meals with what could potentially be complete strangers. Over time, I doubt people will worry so much about privacy. I think convenience will trump privacy.
elizabethv
5/30/2017 4:51:45 PM
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Technology
I think technology as a whole has always just gotten better with time. Part of the issue, I believe, in being able to find the "bugs" early on with any device or program, is a lack of real world application. If someone isn't using it in the real world, there are bound to be areas where the technology is lacking. But with time, and use, those "bugs" are found, and can then be worked out.
dmendyk
5/30/2017 2:31:22 PM
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Re: Picking up a thread dear to my heart ...
I wonder how the concept of privacy will evolve over the next couple of generations.
JohnBarnes
5/30/2017 2:18:33 PM
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Re: Picking up a thread dear to my heart ...
The botnet problem is actually a whole other threat in its own right. It would be harder but by no means impossible to do penetration of privacy with only sporadic access to a few devices (i.e. analysis without the botnet) and a botnet could be used for many purposes besides gathering intel (e.g. coordinated sabotage of an evacuation). So that's three big things to worry about that wouldn't necessarily make good movies.
dcawrey
5/30/2017 12:55:51 PM
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Re: Picking up a thread dear to my heart ...
The threat definitely comes from these devices being harnessed for a botnet.
That's what scares me the most. One compromised machine can really only do so much...
JohnBarnes
5/30/2017 8:25:26 AM
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Picking up a thread dear to my heart ...
... the power of contemporary data science is indeed a big part of the security threat, and it's good to see it get some coverage. Modern espionage, which began around WW2 and was brought to fruition during the Cold War, is not so much about stealing secrets as about constructing them from secondary evidence -- a change of strategy being signaled by transfers of officers, relocation of a spare parts depot, addition of weather stations, repaving and improving a highway that hadn't seen an increase in traffic, cancelled leaves for sailors at one port and lights being on (or pizzas being ordered, if you're spying on the US) late at night at a secure facility. When computing power was scarce and rare, and software wasn't up to noticing and interpreting that sort of thing, it had to be reserved for spying on major military powers and literal matters of life and death.
With powerful machine learning packages running on desktops these days (I've got an experiment running right now that's much more data- and computation-intensive than military and intelligence computers could have handled in 1960), you can spy on Fred and Mary Consumer to see if you can switch their brand of shampoo.
Like it or not it's still a competitive weapon.
JohnBarnes
5/30/2017 8:18:05 AM
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Great piece
Carl Piva shows a lot of disciplined imagination and a sense of tradeoff -- he's not one of the many who think that we just need to throw more tech at the problem and it will be solved well enough, he gets that the exact things that make community-wide IoT attractive and induce us to hurry to get there are the things that will make it vulnerable to security breaches. Terrific interview, at least in part because you interviewed a terrific interviewee. More like this, please!
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