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Mike Robuck
Mike Robuck
3/2/2016 12:21:21 PM
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Shades of the Apple dustup. A Facebook exec in Brazil was released today after being arrested for not providing info from a WhatsApp account. 

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DHagar
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3/2/2016 1:31:03 PM
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@Mike, interesting dynamic in the international markets.  I noted with interest your statement from the German official "special obligations" of major companies.  One wonders what those expected requirements are, both in trust issues and privacy.

As you point out it appears that governments are flexing their muscles with commerce, data governance, and privacy.  I am wondering if there will not be an attempt to set up an international standard because of Apple and the earlier conflicts with companies/government with Snowden?

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vnewman
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3/2/2016 2:04:18 PM
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@DHagar - "Special obligations" sounds like a euphemism to say "you are under a microscope and if we don't like what we see, look out."

FB is apparently stirring up the pot in Germany, where the Wall Street Journal reported FB was forced to change the language in its privacy terms after a court ruled a clause was "unlawful." After failing to implement the changes by the given deadline, they were fined 100,000 Euros.    Then, last month, Germany's Federal Court of Justice ruled that FB's find-a-friend function was illegal, calling it an intrusive form of advertising.

What I find most interesting is the "Anti-trust" allegations, which is really a whole different level than issues with "privacy."  Thoughts?

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/2/2016 2:05:36 PM
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@DHagar:

Setting up an 'International Standard' sounds very adequate looking at what we are witnessing with Apple Vs Gov fiasco. It is certain that Government is going to come up with more scrutinized policies for data governance and privacy. The need will only be multiplied as we go forward.

@Mike: Interesting to know about the arrest incident of Facebook exec in Germany. I would say these kind of incidents would become more common now.

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vnewman
vnewman
3/2/2016 2:20:54 PM
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Futher, the argument goes something like this: if users had more "social media" options to choose from, they may not opt to agree to FB's privacy terms.  But since they are the only game in town, they force user's hands to agree because they are a monopoly and thus, it becomes an Anti-Trust issue.

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DHagar
DHagar
3/2/2016 2:22:13 PM
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@vnewman, great info and update - thanks!

Thoughts on anti-trust:  yes, I agree about the special obligations.  So my thoughts on anti-trust is they are interpreting any "unfair" conditions that give FB an advantage; which is either a restraint on full competition or a target against the practices specifically of FB, due to their view that it works against their markets and/or other companies.  I am thinking it appears to be more the latter in that they seem to be targeting FB.

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DHagar
DHagar
3/2/2016 2:24:21 PM
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vnewman, you may be right in the line of thinking that FB's practices result in a monopoly.

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DHagar
DHagar
3/2/2016 2:28:30 PM
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ms.akkineni, good points in that the conflict between governments and consumers on privacy are going to become a growing issue, and may cross international borders.  A standard of universal acceptance, from which each country could further build upon, would provide some guidance and direction - thus security to all players as to where the lines are.

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vnewman
vnewman
3/2/2016 3:21:30 PM
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I mean, in a way, I feel bad for FB if this is the treatment they receive based soley on the fact there isn't another social media giant that can compete.  That's really not their fault, so should they be penalized for it?

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vnewman
vnewman
3/2/2016 3:21:35 PM
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I mean, in a way, I feel bad for FB if this is the treatment they receive based soley on the fact there isn't another social media giant that can compete.  That's really not their fault, so should they be penalized for it?

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