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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/27/2016 6:22:06 PM
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Re: The concern with security
> "it doesn't negate the fact that "pretty-normal" kids these days are learning to pwn these devices!"

If kids are being raised with and developing more cybersecurity awareness than the rest of society has, that's probably a good thing (they can't all turn out to be bad guys, can they?).  :)

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Joe Stanganelli
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3/27/2016 6:23:29 PM
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Re: The concern with security
I think IoT security is one of those things that everyone talks about addressing -- but few actually do.  Those that do often address it on the server/cloud side, but that still leaves the vulnerabilities on the device side.

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afwriter
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3/27/2016 7:56:40 PM
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Re: The concern with security
It is easier to physically pick a lock than hack one and an IoT smoke alarm can tell you if there is a fire in your house even if you are not home which means you can react faster and possibly save your house.

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JohnBarnes
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3/28/2016 7:16:07 AM
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Re: The concern with security
The actual value of the old-time physical lock is not in its difficulty of picking, where software definitely wins -- software can simulate thousands of tumblers with thousands of positions, compared to less than ten tumblers with less than twenty positions on even very sophisticated combination or key locks.  The value of the physical lock is that Bob the Burglar has to be physically next to the physical lock, for some indefinite period of time, to pick it. And much as we all feel that our virtual selves are part of our selves, Bob the Burglar can shed those like a lizard's tail to evade escape, whereas if he's actually on your porch visibly messing with your lock, there's at least a chance that a cop will be able to catch him.

Note to innovators and enhancers: the "unbreakable tail" would be a huge enhancement on IoT security.  I know you're already working on many versions of it; it's a good path, and maybe a necessary one.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/28/2016 8:37:12 AM
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Re: The concern with security
@afwriter: Ah, yes.  Especially good point about the smoke alarm.

But what makes an IoT lock unpickable?

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/28/2016 8:40:24 AM
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Re: The concern with security
@JohnBarnes: Good points, as always.  Maybe the way to go is to use both types of locks, to get the best of both worlds!

I remember years ago reading or hearing a comedian saying that he had six locks on his door but only locked three of them, so that a burglar would lock three of them whenever he tried to pick them.  (Obviously, you and I know it doesn't work that way, but still funny.)

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afwriter
afwriter
3/28/2016 9:28:01 AM
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Re: The concern with security
Not that it is that difficult to figure out for someone who really wants in your house, but often times the physical lock is hidden on IoT locks.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/28/2016 10:50:03 AM
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Re: The concern with security
Good Point @Joe. It is very true that more focus and attention is for SErver side or Cloud security than at client / device level. This gap must be filled.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/28/2016 10:56:25 AM
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@Joe:

Very interesting point about kids. I believe it is a bit tricky situation. It is good thinking to bring kids up to speed with cybser security awareness. There is a very good chance for kids getting curious with both sides of the coin. Obviously we try to emphasize positive side of it. But eventually it would be them that pick whatever side as they grow up, not necessarily with negative side. But we can not rule out that possibility 100%.

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faryl
faryl
3/28/2016 5:26:48 PM
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Re: The concern with security
I remember someone giving a talk on security risks related to viruses about 10 years ago and how surprised people were at the idea of the possibility that use of computerized systems in cars could be a security/safety vulnerability. He gave a hypothetical scenario of using the new technology of connecting devices via Bluetooth at the time. It definitely left an impression on me!

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